Aug 24, 2026 · 50 min · 13 segments
Social media was once sold to us as "fun"—years later, the Big Tech leaders who sold us on it flaunt their authoritarian alignments. Gil Durán and I discuss his new book, "…
Gil DuránGuest
Caitlin BeggHost
What are some of the similarities you see between the Third Reich and the Nerd Reich and this Silicon Valley fascism with 1940s Germany?

One of the most important things they have in common is an obsession with hierarchy, with the way society should be structured hierarchically with wealthy white men on the top of everybody else.

There's a lot of basis rooted in, there's a lot of roots in eugenics in both Nazism and in the tech fascist movement.

Technology as a means to establish dominance through aggression by being able to leap ahead.

The Nazis also had an obsession, a fixation, and an expertise with rockets and cars.

And at the heart of fascism in the early 20th century, there's this obsession with technology as a means of acceleration.

So if you can get ahead of a technology before everyone else does, you can try to dominate the world with that technology.

At the same time, the Nazi movement was also apocalyptic in that it sought to demonize its enemies and purge them from the earth in order to establish this thousand-year Reich, a sort of... paradisical land, a world where they would rule peaceably for years, kind of based on the Bible.

Similarly, with the tech fascists, they promised this sort of era of superabundance through AI transcendence that will lead to this era of eternal life, multi-planetary travel, and superabundance.

In this era of Silicon Valley fascism and the tech industrial complex, what exactly does that mean?

He warned, and a lot of people forgot this, it didn't seem to get much coverage, that democracy was in grave danger from a tech industrial complex, a handful of super wealthy men who were now poised to exercise unprecedented power.

So the people who are supposed to be the government contractors actually become the power behind the throne.

It's not clear why he waited until his last speech as president to warn everybody about this.

What are some of the similarities you see between the Third Reich and the Nerd Reich and this Silicon Valley fascism with 1940s Germany?

One of the most important things they have in common is an obsession with hierarchy, with the way society should be structured hierarchically with wealthy white men on the top of everybody else.

There's a lot of basis rooted in, there's a lot of roots in eugenics in both Nazism and in the tech fascist movement.

Technology as a means to establish dominance through aggression by being able to leap ahead.

The Nazis also had an obsession, a fixation, and an expertise with rockets and cars.

And at the heart of fascism in the early 20th century, there's this obsession with technology as a means of acceleration.

So if you can get ahead of a technology before everyone else does, you can try to dominate the world with that technology.

At the same time, the Nazi movement was also apocalyptic in that it sought to demonize its enemies and purge them from the earth in order to establish this thousand-year Reich, a sort of... paradisical land, a world where they would rule peaceably for years, kind of based on the Bible.

Similarly, with the tech fascists, they promised this sort of era of superabundance through AI transcendence that will lead to this era of eternal life, multi-planetary travel, and superabundance.

In this era of Silicon Valley fascism and the tech industrial complex, what exactly does that mean?

He warned, and a lot of people forgot this, it didn't seem to get much coverage, that democracy was in grave danger from a tech industrial complex, a handful of super wealthy men who were now poised to exercise unprecedented power.

So the people who are supposed to be the government contractors actually become the power behind the throne.

It's not clear why he waited until his last speech as president to warn everybody about this.
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