Ukraine Is Already Lost

What is the risk that nuclear weapons could be used in these kind of scenarios? Because this is the fundamental difference between our situation today-

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... and the situation in the past.

I mean, there were no nuclear weapons in the 5th century before Christ.

[laughs] I mean, they didn't exist then.

So Athens might be going down, but it didn't have the option of using nuclear weapons.

Um, America in theory does.

Is that a risk?

You know, I actually discount the use of nuclear weapons.

I don't think nuclear wea- weapons will be ever used.

Um, first of all, that's, it's ultimate taboo, right? I mean, whoever uses nuclear weapons will be a pariah state for all of eternity, right? Uh, and it doesn't matter who it is.

If it's, America use, uses it, then the entire world will turn against America, and America will be held in contempt for all of eternity.

So I don't th- so I think that's the first, uh, thing.

The second thing is that, um, we have to remember that even though these nation-states are at war, they still have a lot of back channels.

Um, there's still negotiations going on.

So remember, like even during the Peloponnesian War, Sparta and Athens, um, their elite were very close.

[laughs] They were intermarried with each other, and, you know, when Spar- when Athens captured these Spartan hostages, the Athenians did return the hostages after some, some negotiations.

Um, so the war never descended into complete barbarism.

I mean, there, there were rules of engagement still in place.

So even though Russia and the United States are at war with each other, they still have a lot of, uh, backdoor, uh, ch- channel communications.

Remember, um, what people don't recognize is that Putin and Trump are very good friends, and we know that from the, the meeting in Alaska in, in Anchorage.

Um, if you just look at their body language, if you just look at, um, their demeanor, their language, they're, they're very close.

They, they sort of have a, have a rapport with each other.

So, um, I, so I would discount actually the use of nuclear weapons.

I do not think it's a factor in, in, uh, in what will happen, um, over the next 10 years.