Sep 15, 2026 · 33 min · 8 segments
Climbers and anglers have more in common than you might think, especially when it comes to protecting public lands. In this episode of *Policy Rx*, The Rock Doc sits down with Trout Unlimited…
Chris WoodGuest
Erik MurdockHost
So, you know, some of our audience, we have a lot of overlap, as we know, between climbing and fishing, but some of our audience is not familiar with Trout Unlimited.
So maybe you can tell us a little bit about the organization that you've been running so well for, I think, well over a decade.
And talk a little bit about the conservation or public lands advocacy efforts that you've got your hands in right now.
And in... let's see, 14 days, I will be celebrating my 25th year at TU, which is shocking to me.
So what we do is we're an organization that helps to care for and recover rivers and streams so that our children can enjoy the benefit of healthy waters.
And we have 400 chapters, all volunteers spread around the country, 350,000 volunteers.
It's an organization of about 380 staff that are, again, spread around the country.
I'm talking to you from Arlington, Virginia, where we have a very small headquarters.
And I worked previously, and we may talk about this, I worked previously at the United States Forest Service.
And I wanted to come to an organization where I could try to work with them to create an analog to the environmental community to engage hunters and anglers in public lands advocacy.
And it turned out that that organization was Trout Unlimited nearly 25 years ago.
And it's been, I mean, I tell people, Coming to work for me is like, it's like coming down the stairs when you're a kid on Christmas morning.
Every single day, I love it because I feel like we're making the world a better place.
So, you know, some of our audience, we have a lot of overlap, as we know, between climbing and fishing, but some of our audience is not familiar with Trout Unlimited.
So maybe you can tell us a little bit about the organization that you've been running so well for, I think, well over a decade.
And talk a little bit about the conservation or public lands advocacy efforts that you've got your hands in right now.
And in... let's see, 14 days, I will be celebrating my 25th year at TU, which is shocking to me.
So what we do is we're an organization that helps to care for and recover rivers and streams so that our children can enjoy the benefit of healthy waters.
And we have 400 chapters, all volunteers spread around the country, 350,000 volunteers.
It's an organization of about 380 staff that are, again, spread around the country.
I'm talking to you from Arlington, Virginia, where we have a very small headquarters.
And I worked previously, and we may talk about this, I worked previously at the United States Forest Service.
And I wanted to come to an organization where I could try to work with them to create an analog to the environmental community to engage hunters and anglers in public lands advocacy.
And it turned out that that organization was Trout Unlimited nearly 25 years ago.
And it's been, I mean, I tell people, Coming to work for me is like, it's like coming down the stairs when you're a kid on Christmas morning.
Every single day, I love it because I feel like we're making the world a better place.
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