Point of View October 15, 2026 – Hour 1 : Marx and Moody: Two Contemporaries. Two Gospels. Two Tombstones. One Choice.

Let's, if we can, get into this because one of the things that I thought was so interesting early on is that you have visited both graves.

Now, it's not surprising that as the pastor of Moody Church, many times you were in Northfield, Massachusetts and visited the grave of D.L. Moody.

But then when you were in London, you also stood at the grave of Karl Marx.

And that relates very much, I'll hold up our booklet, Biblical Point of View on Socialism, that I wrote a while back, in which I argue, and you do as well, that even though he is gone, Karl Marx still rules from the grave, doesn't he?

He really does.

And I wanted to do a lecture there, Kirby, because I thought it might be more impressive to be standing at his grave and contemplating his death and

his continuing influence.

And, you know, even as we walked there, and I point this out in the last chapter where I take the reader to both Moody's grave and, of course, the grave of Karl Marx, that when we were in Highgate Cemetery there in London, our guide, who didn't pretend to be a believer... said that there are rumors that Karl comes out of his grave at night and wanders through the cemetery.

Well, actually, I'm not too surprised at that.

I think that the demons of Karl Marx have inhabited many different parts of the world, and whether or not that's to be taken literally or symbolically, the fact is, as I stood at his grave, I was reminded of the continuing influence that marks has around the world

let me just mention to you that uh...

this uh... that i'm holding up for those who watching online is the november issue of outlook it has the title the socialist surge uh... is happening in america has gotten article or two that i've written one by liberty mccarter one by gary bauer and again that one of the reasons why i thought this was so timely as are so many of your books We are at a time right now when a lot of young people think that socialism is better than capitalism, that think the democratic socialist of America might help us deal with affordability.

And so before we get into some of the basics just of the Communist Manifesto, which you talk about, which you call kind of his gospel, let's just mention the fact that the reason this book, I think, is so timely and significant is is we have an election coming up, and there are a lot of people that are going to want to vote for socialists unless they begin to understand some of the things you talk about in this book.

Yes, in fact, one of the longest chapters in the book is on socialism, and we need to talk about it.

You know, I begin the chapter by saying the dream is free, the bill comes later.

Let's, if we can, get into this because one of the things that I thought was so interesting early on is that you have visited both graves.

Now, it's not surprising that as the pastor of Moody Church, many times you were in Northfield, Massachusetts and visited the grave of D.L. Moody.

But then when you were in London, you also stood at the grave of Karl Marx.

And that relates very much, I'll hold up our booklet, Biblical Point of View on Socialism, that I wrote a while back, in which I argue, and you do as well, that even though he is gone, Karl Marx still rules from the grave, doesn't he?

He really does.

And I wanted to do a lecture there, Kirby, because I thought it might be more impressive to be standing at his grave and contemplating his death and

his continuing influence.

And, you know, even as we walked there, and I point this out in the last chapter where I take the reader to both Moody's grave and, of course, the grave of Karl Marx, that when we were in Highgate Cemetery there in London, our guide, who didn't pretend to be a believer... said that there are rumors that Karl comes out of his grave at night and wanders through the cemetery.

Well, actually, I'm not too surprised at that.

I think that the demons of Karl Marx have inhabited many different parts of the world, and whether or not that's to be taken literally or symbolically, the fact is, as I stood at his grave, I was reminded of the continuing influence that marks has around the world

let me just mention to you that uh...

this uh... that i'm holding up for those who watching online is the november issue of outlook it has the title the socialist surge uh... is happening in america has gotten article or two that i've written one by liberty mccarter one by gary bauer and again that one of the reasons why i thought this was so timely as are so many of your books We are at a time right now when a lot of young people think that socialism is better than capitalism, that think the democratic socialist of America might help us deal with affordability.

And so before we get into some of the basics just of the Communist Manifesto, which you talk about, which you call kind of his gospel, let's just mention the fact that the reason this book, I think, is so timely and significant is is we have an election coming up, and there are a lot of people that are going to want to vote for socialists unless they begin to understand some of the things you talk about in this book.

Yes, in fact, one of the longest chapters in the book is on socialism, and we need to talk about it.

You know, I begin the chapter by saying the dream is free, the bill comes later.