Sep 30, 2026 · 58 min · 12 segments
On this episode: Nate gives info on the Samson Summit. Aaron talks to Michael. Aaron talks story work with Mike Snapp. Michael shares his history with his dad, step-dad, military, flying planes…
Let me ask you two questions before you move on with the story.
One goes back to your story, this interesting and amusing story.
How many years of your life did you tell that story of your birth father in that way? Till
You know, I started to get an inkling maybe in my late 30s, early 40s that this wasn't just an interesting story.
But I started to say to myself, I think this is probably more meaningful than I'm giving credit.
Yeah.
So I wanted to pause on this because I think I was talking to a man recently about some hard things in his life.
And as we talked about how he might press into it more deeply to understand a little bit about what was happening in his adult life, he said, Well, I don't need to write that out.
I already know my story.
And I thought that was a great, I was so glad he said it that way.
Because yes, he knows his story, but he hasn't yet connected his story to the other parts of his story.
Yeah.
And when we are talking with a person who has come to make their story an amusing anecdote with all the, you probably told it in a very similar way every time, probably had the same little jokes in it, all that.
Yeah.
But usually when someone's telling that story, there are missing pieces of emotional integrity or physical integrity.
What you see in the story doesn't match up with the story, such as someone will talk about a big event on a family holiday when a dad got drunk and threw a plate at the wall.
But they say it with a smile and laugh.
And those are incongruous that I could be like a seven-year-old and I'm telling this story, which is terrifying.
There's no way any child would not be terrified in that moment.
And yet now the story has become a isn't this funny what I went through.
And I think as listeners to other men's story, I love that you brought this up because I think it's part of our story.
Let me ask you two questions before you move on with the story.
One goes back to your story, this interesting and amusing story.
How many years of your life did you tell that story of your birth father in that way? Till
You know, I started to get an inkling maybe in my late 30s, early 40s that this wasn't just an interesting story.
But I started to say to myself, I think this is probably more meaningful than I'm giving credit.
Yeah.
So I wanted to pause on this because I think I was talking to a man recently about some hard things in his life.
And as we talked about how he might press into it more deeply to understand a little bit about what was happening in his adult life, he said, Well, I don't need to write that out.
I already know my story.
And I thought that was a great, I was so glad he said it that way.
Because yes, he knows his story, but he hasn't yet connected his story to the other parts of his story.
Yeah.
And when we are talking with a person who has come to make their story an amusing anecdote with all the, you probably told it in a very similar way every time, probably had the same little jokes in it, all that.
Yeah.
But usually when someone's telling that story, there are missing pieces of emotional integrity or physical integrity.
What you see in the story doesn't match up with the story, such as someone will talk about a big event on a family holiday when a dad got drunk and threw a plate at the wall.
But they say it with a smile and laugh.
And those are incongruous that I could be like a seven-year-old and I'm telling this story, which is terrifying.
There's no way any child would not be terrified in that moment.
And yet now the story has become a isn't this funny what I went through.
And I think as listeners to other men's story, I love that you brought this up because I think it's part of our story.
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