An Interview with Barrett Brown

that's kind of what we see a lot in the UFO community, at least recently.

It's pretty much been infiltrated and funded and sort of hijacked by specifically Peter Thiel and his network.

You know, the people around him are popping up, starting these UFO podcasts.

And essentially, I think there's two reasons for that.

That he, A, wants to use the public pressure generated by the UFO community to get this information out and the technology out and use that for himself.

You know, whatever that is, whether it be alien or anything else, just whatever classified technology, he wants that.

And the second, I think, is he wants to build cults.

I mean, that's kind of his thing.

I don't know if you know about Hereticon or any of that shit, but they're really into some bizarre shit.

And then it gradually turns into things like eugenics and, you know, that kind of thing.

So a lot of the top voices in, you know, Lou Elizondo went to Hereticon.

I don't know.

you know him i know you've been sort of in the sphere but yeah it's i feel like it's uh our interests align in that way but you have a much more nuanced and uh experienced you know insight into that into that whole thing so i

would say oftentimes it's like i'm coming from like a country that's just been pillaged and burned and evaded and i'm running i'm like hey here's here's what they're going to do here's how their techniques are in this case you know when i come from the the activist sector that I was involved with that was infiltrated and kind of co-opted, uh, go to something else.

In this case, it's like I'm running from one, uh, pillaged country into a country that was destroyed 30, 40 years ago and saying, Hey, well, here's what to look out for next time.

Or, you know, uh, because of the UFO community, uh, and the entire, everything around, everything around this, you know, modern, uh, This extra world, conceptually, that exists within our own has been, as you guys know, and I'm sure people who view this program know, has been kind of probably a training ground, a proving ground for a lot of the methodology that is used everywhere else.

And I'm somewhat conversant with the history to a light degree.

in so far as Lou Elizondo and Richard Doty, so forth, I'm familiar with them.

I've seen, I've picked up pieces here and there.

I've been very interested in it, in this, the sphere because number one, I was raised essentially to, essentially in the UFO religion that exists in the US, but only to the extent that I was also raised Methodist, as if we didn't go to church.

So I had a vague idea that probably UFOs were definitely, you know, were going to come and perhaps solve some problems, but we weren't really devout, you know.

But as I, the last few years, since getting out of prison in 2017 or 2016, that was about when, it was right before the New York Times article came out.

It was right before You start hearing, noticing things that are unprecedented, you know, in the U.S. in particular.

You have these sudden mainstream pushes into this area that previously had been co-opted by necessity by such thing as Fox, you know, Fox, Friday nights, alien autopsy, you know, just fun stuff you watched on Saturday on History Channel.

It was not taken as a real thing that needed to be examined.