WikiLeaks

And CIA tends to fulfill that role today.

Yeah, my sense is it really started to erode after WikiLeaks and all those diplomatic cables found their way out into the open source material.

I don't know who leaks more, us or the Israelis.

Right.

A race where you lost fair and square, unlike the Bernie Sanders race where you won, but not fair and square, in my opinion.

And all you have to do is take a look at WikiLeaks and just see what they said about Bernie Sanders and see what Deborah Wasserman Schultz had in mind.

Because Bernie Sanders, between superdelegates and Deborah Wasserman Schultz, he never had a chance.

And I was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil.

That was a great, I thought, a great display of presidential leadership.

But, you know, let's talk about what's really going on here, Martha, because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that the Kremlin, meaning Putin and the Russian government, are directing the attacks, the hacking on American accounts to influence our election.

And WikiLeaks is part of that, as are other sites where the Russians hack information, we don't even know if it's accurate information, and then they put it out.

We have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election.

And with these type of things, slower scale is definitely more important.

I mean, straight from Satoshi's ideals that With Bitcoin, they had the opportunity for WikiLeaks, for it to get listed on WikiLeaks for payment for different types of information.

And Satoshi told Julian Assange, no, that it would scale too fast.

So Shannon's working on the back end to get these things optimized.

He's knows about the Hillary laptop.

He's read the WikiLeaks files.

Like he, he campaigned on this in 2016.

This is like a final showdown.

So huddling wasn't even a thing.

So what I liked was it was used by Wikileaks and it was used in different markets that were not regulated.

And that's what caught my interest because at the time I really fell in love, so to say, with Karl Menger, Ludwig von Mises and the Austrian School of Economics.

And I started to really despise the government and centralization.

So where it looked off, but the microphone was still recording.

March 2017, WikiLeaks drops Vault 7, a massive CIA leak.

Thousands of files reveal the CIA's secret cyber arsenal.

Projects have names straight out of a spy thriller.

Headlines warn your phone, router, and even TV could be spying on you.

In the world of 2016 to 2017, the years of our Lord, I don't remember what was going on that year, but Yeah.

WikiLeaks announces it has obtained CIA documents from the Center for Cyber Intelligence, codenamed Vault 7, the largest ever release of CIA material.

Up to that point, at least.

And then, of course, I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute.

Buddy, weren't you fined for WikiLeaks?

Yeah,

I was about to say.

So is it really out of the realm of possibility that you'd be taking information from somebody else, given that you were fined for WikiLeaks checks notes 10 years

ago? Yeah, I think that Shane deciding to take particular issue with the 2024.

See, I think he could have just rested on the comfortable pillow of Cocktober, Joe.

So it started to get real interest globally.

And as the creator of it, I think, you know, part of the story of the narrative goes, you got a bit spooked, right? Because it was around then that WikiLeaks actually started using Bitcoin.

So Julian Assange, we all know now, the trauma that poor guy has gone through by just trying to shed some light to government conspiracies, publishing documents, and he had to go into hiding for freaking whatever, you know, 15 odd years.

Bitcoin was starting to get used by WikiLeaks as a separate currency because we started to realise that, holy shit, you know, WikiLeaks bank accounts got stopped.

You know, when you are part of that more... traditional finance system, you're putting complete trust.

You've got to get banked.