Laurie FrankelGuestJohn-Paul SarniHostThey were asking who's coming on the podcast, and I started to, to pitch it, just as you did, actually, not any further than that.

And, and one of the things that, I mean, really, this is a book about a- agency and autonomy and-

the decisions that you get to make and the decisions that you don't get to make.

And, um, I think what she realizes, and what we realize over the course of this thing, is that on the one hand, her kids made her, her adult children made her make this move.

But on the other hand, she consented to this move becau- out of, out of love and concern for her adult children.

Um, and you know, and the knowledge that if you don't make this decision while you still can, then you don't get to make this decision at all.
Look, when, without getting, you know, too far, too far past that, I mean, as, as you say, there's, the- there's choices to be made and, and things to be, to be done.
And um, you know, if you think about the very conversation about pregnancy in, in certain parts of the United States, you know, this becomes even, even more tangled and interesting, and um, and a, but a very rich part of your storytelling.
They were asking who's coming on the podcast, and I started to, to pitch it, just as you did, actually, not any further than that.

And, and one of the things that, I mean, really, this is a book about a- agency and autonomy and-

the decisions that you get to make and the decisions that you don't get to make.

And, um, I think what she realizes, and what we realize over the course of this thing, is that on the one hand, her kids made her, her adult children made her make this move.

But on the other hand, she consented to this move becau- out of, out of love and concern for her adult children.

Um, and you know, and the knowledge that if you don't make this decision while you still can, then you don't get to make this decision at all.
Look, when, without getting, you know, too far, too far past that, I mean, as, as you say, there's, the- there's choices to be made and, and things to be, to be done.
And um, you know, if you think about the very conversation about pregnancy in, in certain parts of the United States, you know, this becomes even, even more tangled and interesting, and um, and a, but a very rich part of your storytelling.
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