Jul 16, 2026 · 49 min · 11 segments
Most of us live in a light-deprived world. We spend less than 15 minutes outside daily—despite thinking we're outdoors for hours—leaving our circadian rhythms dangerously misaligned. In this episode…
Lucas TangGuest
Jamie ZeitzerGuest
Adam RindeHost
And a great place to start would be to hear what people are getting wrong about sleep and energy.

I think with Dr. Adam, when you guys are quite ahead of the curve, circadian rhythm is extremely important for your sleep and energy, perhaps a lot more important than people realize.

And what's super interesting is that you've been talking to my professional psychiatrist, psychologist.

So kidney rhythm, especially light therapy, is one of those things that maybe doctors know to work quite well, but oftentimes the knowledge of it is quite outdated.


They believe that's probably sufficient or maybe that's even how much you need and maybe more of it is not good.


So that's something that's quite interesting, especially it's not just about getting light first thing in the morning for 30 minutes.

Almost like a doctor telling you don't go outdoors in the afternoon because the light might hurt you.

I think in general, our philosophy and hypothesis is to bring you closer to what you would get otherwise in nature.


And so generally, when you're able to align yourself with nature, you're going to get the best sleep at the best energy possible.

And a great place to start would be to hear what people are getting wrong about sleep and energy.

I think with Dr. Adam, when you guys are quite ahead of the curve, circadian rhythm is extremely important for your sleep and energy, perhaps a lot more important than people realize.

And what's super interesting is that you've been talking to my professional psychiatrist, psychologist.

So kidney rhythm, especially light therapy, is one of those things that maybe doctors know to work quite well, but oftentimes the knowledge of it is quite outdated.


They believe that's probably sufficient or maybe that's even how much you need and maybe more of it is not good.


So that's something that's quite interesting, especially it's not just about getting light first thing in the morning for 30 minutes.

Almost like a doctor telling you don't go outdoors in the afternoon because the light might hurt you.

I think in general, our philosophy and hypothesis is to bring you closer to what you would get otherwise in nature.


And so generally, when you're able to align yourself with nature, you're going to get the best sleep at the best energy possible.
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