Jul 9, 2026 · 59 min · 21 segments
Non-consensual deepfake pornography is on the rise. While celebrities were often the earliest targets, these AI-generated deepfakes are now spreading across communities and…
Kara SwisherHost
Laurie SegallGuest
V.S. SubrahmanianGuest
Carrie GoldbergGuest
VS, talk about the online communities that exist for sharing information and making so-called nudify tools accessible, and how has it evolved over the past 10 years in terms of how it's used?
One, as I mentioned earlier, is face swapping, where you've got an individual who's nude performing some sex act, and their face has been replaced with the face of somebody like Miss Chu, who you alluded to a couple of minutes back.
Another is to use m- massive databases of training data of existing nude individuals to create and generate new nudes of people who are hyperrealistic, who are performing acts which the real individual portrayed never performed.
And I don't want to go into the gory details of how that's done, but there are a number of techniques.
And so as a consequence, what we see is really a huge number of websites that can disseminate such stuff, not just the produced content, but also the tools that are used to create and disseminate this stuff, and that's typically done on the dark web through some kind of distribution network on the dark web.
And what changed when Elon made it easy to do so? Because for all eyes on the dark web, you have to actually make an attempt to go get it, right? It's like going to a porn store or going to a porn movie or something back in the old days.
Well, I can't speak specifically to Elon and what he did, but what I can say is that the more these tools are available through normal channels, the more the audience that gets access to them.
And as soon as you have a big audience, you have a bigger audience of bad guys, or, as Carrie mentioned, just teenagers who don't know better and haven't been taught better, possibly because their teachers and their parents, however decent they may be, were not aware of the threat.
Deepfakes and nudify apps are also a big problem in schools, as we mentioned earlier.
A recent survey of roughly 550 US teens found that over half had created at least one image using nudification tools, while a third of the teens reported having their image created and shared non-consensually.
Sites like Mr. Deepfakes and apps like Grok have, as we noted, have normalized creating non-consensual and, in some cases, violent sexual imagery, often of women.
I always like to say, like, to try to make it a little bit personal, I'll never forget...
VS, talk about the online communities that exist for sharing information and making so-called nudify tools accessible, and how has it evolved over the past 10 years in terms of how it's used?
One, as I mentioned earlier, is face swapping, where you've got an individual who's nude performing some sex act, and their face has been replaced with the face of somebody like Miss Chu, who you alluded to a couple of minutes back.
Another is to use m- massive databases of training data of existing nude individuals to create and generate new nudes of people who are hyperrealistic, who are performing acts which the real individual portrayed never performed.
And I don't want to go into the gory details of how that's done, but there are a number of techniques.
And so as a consequence, what we see is really a huge number of websites that can disseminate such stuff, not just the produced content, but also the tools that are used to create and disseminate this stuff, and that's typically done on the dark web through some kind of distribution network on the dark web.
And what changed when Elon made it easy to do so? Because for all eyes on the dark web, you have to actually make an attempt to go get it, right? It's like going to a porn store or going to a porn movie or something back in the old days.
Well, I can't speak specifically to Elon and what he did, but what I can say is that the more these tools are available through normal channels, the more the audience that gets access to them.
And as soon as you have a big audience, you have a bigger audience of bad guys, or, as Carrie mentioned, just teenagers who don't know better and haven't been taught better, possibly because their teachers and their parents, however decent they may be, were not aware of the threat.
Deepfakes and nudify apps are also a big problem in schools, as we mentioned earlier.
A recent survey of roughly 550 US teens found that over half had created at least one image using nudification tools, while a third of the teens reported having their image created and shared non-consensually.
Sites like Mr. Deepfakes and apps like Grok have, as we noted, have normalized creating non-consensual and, in some cases, violent sexual imagery, often of women.
I always like to say, like, to try to make it a little bit personal, I'll never forget...
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I Felt Digital Shame
Laurie recounts her own unexpected humiliation story
First Look at Mr. Deepfakes
Laurie discovers thousands of violent fake images
Grok's Graphic Image Surge
Carrie details Grok's disturbing nudifying rollout events
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