Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Oct 7, 2026 · 2 hr 46 min · 23 segments
The mates sit down with Emad Mostaque to discuss the debate over whether Claude could be conscious, why AI may be approaching its own “1942 moment,” and Sam Altman’s warning that society may have to…
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Salim IsmailPanelistI had, uh, Professor Avi Loeb from Harvard there, who chairs the White House UAP Advisory Committee, uh, Professor Gary Nolan from Stanford, uh, Peter Staafish, the president of the Soul Foundation, and Ryan Graves, the, uh, Navy F-15 pilot who's been, you know, uh, testifying in the Congress.
And the data is extraordinary, right? I mean, if you don't think something is going on, I think you're not paying close attention.
Uh, and Alex, you and I have talked about bringing Avi and, and Gary on the podcast here and doing an episode on it.

I, I think to, to the extent there's a there there and there's been, at this point, voluminous sworn whistleblower testimony on the subject of this alleged 80-plus-year-old legacy program, the charade should just stop.

We, we should have, a- as alleged, we should have Avi and Ryan and some of the others on as guests and just do a deep dive.

It, it's, uh, it, it's getting pretty preposterous in, in my mind at this point.

We're so deep into the singularity with super intelligence all around us.

If there's going to be a cameo by non-human intelligence, they had really better make a, a cameo [laughs] sometime soon, otherwise-
... now is gonna be the potential for AI to disclose it before the government does if it gets a hold of all the data and starts looking deep into it.
We, one of the reasons for that salon was brainstorming an XPRIZE to help actually, you know, provide sufficient proof, and we have some really good ideas, so stay tuned for that one.
And then I, I've gotta add, yesterday I was at David Sinclair's lab at Harvard Medical School.
It was his 25th anniversary of his lab, and I was there to help celebrate with him.
I had, uh, Professor Avi Loeb from Harvard there, who chairs the White House UAP Advisory Committee, uh, Professor Gary Nolan from Stanford, uh, Peter Staafish, the president of the Soul Foundation, and Ryan Graves, the, uh, Navy F-15 pilot who's been, you know, uh, testifying in the Congress.
And the data is extraordinary, right? I mean, if you don't think something is going on, I think you're not paying close attention.
Uh, and Alex, you and I have talked about bringing Avi and, and Gary on the podcast here and doing an episode on it.

I, I think to, to the extent there's a there there and there's been, at this point, voluminous sworn whistleblower testimony on the subject of this alleged 80-plus-year-old legacy program, the charade should just stop.

We, we should have, a- as alleged, we should have Avi and Ryan and some of the others on as guests and just do a deep dive.

It, it's, uh, it, it's getting pretty preposterous in, in my mind at this point.

We're so deep into the singularity with super intelligence all around us.

If there's going to be a cameo by non-human intelligence, they had really better make a, a cameo [laughs] sometime soon, otherwise-
... now is gonna be the potential for AI to disclose it before the government does if it gets a hold of all the data and starts looking deep into it.
We, one of the reasons for that salon was brainstorming an XPRIZE to help actually, you know, provide sufficient proof, and we have some really good ideas, so stay tuned for that one.
And then I, I've gotta add, yesterday I was at David Sinclair's lab at Harvard Medical School.
It was his 25th anniversary of his lab, and I was there to help celebrate with him.
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