Salim Ismail

Welcome to Moonshots, everyone, your number one podcast on all things AI and exponential, your front row seat to the supersonic tsunami that we call the singularity.

Today, we've got the Fantastic Four back, AWG, DB2, and our globetrotter, live from Singapore at 2:00 AM, Salim Ismail.

Uh, Salim, thank you for your dedication, pal.

I'm tired, hungry-

Right.

And joining him to pressure test his ideas are AI analyst Alex Weir-Gross, technology investor Dave Blenden, and Salim Ismail, who's an expert on, well, what we might call the organizational singularity.

The scope of their debate is just expansive.

I mean, we are looking at the bleeding edge of recursive self-improvement.

It solely ingests data and makes lightning-fast, incredibly cheap categorical decisions in a fraction of a millisecond.

It leans entirely on Kahneman's concept of System 1 thinking, the fast, intuitive, automatic snap judgments that human beings make constantly without conscious effort.

The implications for Salim Ismail's concept of the organizational singularity are profound.

When we visualize the integration of AI into the corporate world, we usually imagine this brooding, hyper-intelligent entity sitting in the boardroom, drafting complex strategy memos and redesigning the corporate structure.

There's a lot you can do as a manager, but to your point, it can be a very uncertain time.

I was on a call with Salim Ismail of EXO community, if anybody heard of the Moon Shots podcast, and you mentioned that the number of direct reports is going up to seven plus.

His prediction is that that's going to 10, 20 plus in the next few years.

So finding ways to create that leverage through your team with experimentation and also testing these tools is a really important aspect of how the role is going to evolve soon.

[laughs] Uh, Dave Blundin, our impresario of AI investing.

Salim Ismail, our global globetrotter, uh, the warlord against all things linear.

Salim, you're home today.

I thought you were in Singapore.

Elon co-leads Pentagon push.

Diamandis and Salim Ismail sit down with Richard Socher to discuss Recursive's massive bet on self-improving AI.

Why Socher puts his p doom at zero, proposed restrictions on recursive self-improvement, the race toward ASI, and benchmarks like the Tavis Turing test.

This is the counterweight to the router thesis.

We publish this twice a week to help you keep up with the extraordinary rate of change.

With me today is the Fantastic Four, Alex Wiesner-Gross, our in-house ASI, Dave Blunden, our impresario of AI investing, Salim Ismail, our globetrotter, who's home today.

Amazing, Salim.

and the father of the organizational singularity.

So I always think about that, the exponential change, um, When I think about how much can change in how little time when we're on an exponential growth curve, I refer to...

Salim Ismail from Exponential Organization, he talks about if you take 30 linear steps, right, you're just following a line, 30 linear steps, you would travel roughly 30 meters, right? So we can think of 30 linear steps, 30 exponential steps where it's doubling like one step.

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, right? Exponential steps is doubling every, doubling every step.

Yep.

I'm going to call them out one at a time.

Our Afghan warlord, Salim Ismail.

Our super intelligence, Alex Rizner Gross.

Our giant, Imad Boustak.

purpose by which we are working.

So as a, yeah, it is inspired from this Salim Ismail's book, exponential company organizations.

So

where you need to have a massive professional purpose.

Welcome to the ASI Pill.

What follows is Alex Wissner-Gross on the Moonshots podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, and Dave Blunden reshaped for the ASI Pilled.

Here is the weekend he walked into.

Dario Amadei published a 3,800-word essay called We Must Pace the Frontier.

But I do think that we need to upload substantially all of our biosphere.

So to the extent that uploaded fruit flies are treated well and humanely or fruit flyly, I think this is terrific and we should do a lot more of it.

That was the ASI Pill, episode 294, reshaped from the Moonshots podcast with Peter Diamandis, Salim Ismail, Dave Blunden, and Alex Wissner-Gross.

One weekend, four voices in unison, and a name for the thing before it had ever held a meeting.