Andrew HopkinsGuestHamishHostMattHost
I need to work as much as I can to give them the life they wanna live, and, um, yeah.
Do you wanna talk to me about that for a second?
Because it's a really...
You see, 'cause it's a hard thing.
You're going to work to try give your kids l- every opportunity possible.
But ultimately, you're not there.
So how, how did you navigate that, and what realization did you have to say, "Hey, yeah, have I got this the right way around?"

When I'd have to look after the kids by myself, and they did not want a bar of me.
Wow.

And, and for me, parenting, before I had kids, was the, you know, you go to, like, a, a, a sort of a pa- a party, and you're there, and you say hi to a kid, and they run behind their, their dad's leg or whatever, and they hold their leg.

And I thought, "That must be the best feeling in the world, being someone's home."
Yeah.

And, um, yeah, then I'd be at home with the kids, and, like, they wouldn't really wanna do that to me.
And was there a moment, specific moment that you remember that being, "Oh-"

I need to work as much as I can to give them the life they wanna live, and, um, yeah.
Do you wanna talk to me about that for a second?
Because it's a really...
You see, 'cause it's a hard thing.
You're going to work to try give your kids l- every opportunity possible.
But ultimately, you're not there.
So how, how did you navigate that, and what realization did you have to say, "Hey, yeah, have I got this the right way around?"

When I'd have to look after the kids by myself, and they did not want a bar of me.
Wow.

And, and for me, parenting, before I had kids, was the, you know, you go to, like, a, a, a sort of a pa- a party, and you're there, and you say hi to a kid, and they run behind their, their dad's leg or whatever, and they hold their leg.

And I thought, "That must be the best feeling in the world, being someone's home."
Yeah.

And, um, yeah, then I'd be at home with the kids, and, like, they wouldn't really wanna do that to me.
And was there a moment, specific moment that you remember that being, "Oh-"
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