S1E7: Ben Hepburn (7/1/25)

I mean, the immigration issue, you know, certainly there's been a huge issue around farming, which the president just yesterday responded to.

Because what was happening is they were going into fields and just sweeping up people and throwing them off.

And the farmers, many of them Trump supporters, were like, whoa, you're just destroying my ability to run my farm.

And so he's just announced he's changing his policy with respect to farming and to the entertainment, like hotels and restaurants and things like that, which I take it to be a signal that it was going too far.

And, you know, I think many people, I mean, you know, people who are upset about what's happening here are upset because of the kind of extremism and cruelty of it.

You see, if you weren't keeping yourself sane by not being on social media, if you were watching the TikTok feeds or Instagram feeds from at least the left side, you'd see all of these extraordinary images of ice grabbing mothers, leaving children by the side of the road as they take the mother away because the allegation is she's here illegally.

Or what I find really outrageous is you've got these You've got these people going to court to process their immigration status.

They're in the process of securing their immigration status, and they're being caught at the court and taken from the court and deported.

So there was a hearing in Congress about how people are taking people with legal status and taking their legal status, and then they're no longer here documented.

So because they're undocumented, they're being...

They're being deported.

So, I mean, I think the big thing is just the kind of extremism of it and the cruelty of it.

And, you know, I think that's triggering a bunch of people.

But you might be right.

Maybe that's what, you know, maybe that's what people voted for.

I think the numbers are still that...

Biden was deporting more than Trump has.

But you didn't see this kind of extremism in the way Biden was deporting during the time he was deporting.

But I want to talk about a part that I just don't think people were voting for.

So we talked last time about this whole tariff business.

And I told you the story about Vietnam.

So Vietnam was named as the top tariff, 46%.

And then Trump announced a 90-day pause.

And then Vietnam changed their laws so they could grant a $1.5 billion resort contract to the Trump family.

So you agree that was kind of outrageous at the time.