KRISTIN HERSH of THROWING MUSES launches Wallace False

Do you think that there has been forward motion in regard to that with the quote unquote industry or do you feel still that that? is the prevalent driver of how artists are, you know, pushed out to, to listeners.

Is it, is it image based in some ways still to this day, or do you think anything has changed? I'm so curious.

I hope,

I hope it has changed in the splintering of the entire entertainment industry and what we would call our culture here in America to split it off.

from an attention economy and make it more human and, you know, the normalize everything thrust means that at least we can increase the images we're allowed to put out there and hopefully pretty will go away and we'll be left with beautiful and ugly and everything because that would be truth.

That would be the radical acceptance that music always engages in.

My issue was more, well, yeah, that was a big issue.

I had

no idea they would even call me female.

I thought I was a musician

and was.

Even more than that, I was a songwriter.

So I was obsessed with these pregnancies just over and over and over and over again.

Every song is like a pregnancy, this life that must live.

And you want to keep it.

safe because you remember the energetic that it was before it had a sound body and you're trying to serve that.

And when someone comes out and says, oh, that should be a whore and you should be a bigger whore.

I'm thinking, what am I doing here? Why, why is this, why are these the people that are in charge of making sound a gift? And so I left, you know, I just thought, okay, I don't belong here.

I'm never going to turn my back on women.

I'm never going to turn my back on music.

I don't even know how.

So I'm going to go over here and I'm going to play my own game, which is just music that is not pretty.

And I play it for people who don't want me to lie.

And

pretty is

Do you think that there has been forward motion in regard to that with the quote unquote industry or do you feel still that that? is the prevalent driver of how artists are, you know, pushed out to, to listeners.

Is it, is it image based in some ways still to this day, or do you think anything has changed? I'm so curious.

I hope,

I hope it has changed in the splintering of the entire entertainment industry and what we would call our culture here in America to split it off.

from an attention economy and make it more human and, you know, the normalize everything thrust means that at least we can increase the images we're allowed to put out there and hopefully pretty will go away and we'll be left with beautiful and ugly and everything because that would be truth.

That would be the radical acceptance that music always engages in.

My issue was more, well, yeah, that was a big issue.

I had

no idea they would even call me female.

I thought I was a musician

and was.

Even more than that, I was a songwriter.

So I was obsessed with these pregnancies just over and over and over and over again.

Every song is like a pregnancy, this life that must live.

And you want to keep it.

safe because you remember the energetic that it was before it had a sound body and you're trying to serve that.

And when someone comes out and says, oh, that should be a whore and you should be a bigger whore.

I'm thinking, what am I doing here? Why, why is this, why are these the people that are in charge of making sound a gift? And so I left, you know, I just thought, okay, I don't belong here.

I'm never going to turn my back on women.

I'm never going to turn my back on music.

I don't even know how.

So I'm going to go over here and I'm going to play my own game, which is just music that is not pretty.

And I play it for people who don't want me to lie.

And

pretty is