In the mood for wine: The Business of Wine
Sep 17, 2026 · 35 min · 8 segments
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Well, I have to say, you know, of course I had to prepare for that possibility, right? As optimistic as I was about winning.
I felt that after winning twice in major courts, across the political spectrum, in both of those courts, Court of International Trade and the Federal District Court of Appeals in Washington, both of those courts were filled with Republican selected judges.
So I felt that in many ways we won in the court of opinion, the court of public opinion.
And I think that what it did was give a lot of people hope and possibility of what could be done.
I think it did get some business leaders to question the tariffs publicly.
So it was, I don't think it was a complete, like it was not a complete waste of time.
Yeah.
Of course we
Yeah.
And can you explain, perhaps in plain English, what was the core of your legal arguments and what you knew was the line that the Supreme Court...
The Liberty Justice Center, which took our case pro bono, They were fantastic.
Well, I have to say, you know, of course I had to prepare for that possibility, right? As optimistic as I was about winning.
I felt that after winning twice in major courts, across the political spectrum, in both of those courts, Court of International Trade and the Federal District Court of Appeals in Washington, both of those courts were filled with Republican selected judges.
So I felt that in many ways we won in the court of opinion, the court of public opinion.
And I think that what it did was give a lot of people hope and possibility of what could be done.
I think it did get some business leaders to question the tariffs publicly.
So it was, I don't think it was a complete, like it was not a complete waste of time.
Yeah.
Of course we
Yeah.
And can you explain, perhaps in plain English, what was the core of your legal arguments and what you knew was the line that the Supreme Court...
The Liberty Justice Center, which took our case pro bono, They were fantastic.
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