EP 105: How Business Can Become a Place of Daily Discipleship

**What does it really look like to integrate faith into the everyday realities of business?** In this episode, Steve Adams sits down with Chris Chancey, president and CEO of the Jacksonville Area National Christian Foundation, for a practical conversation about faith, work, risk, failure, generosity, and spiritual impact. Chris shares how his journey began with plans for traditional ministry, but while studying at seminary, his understanding of work began to change. Scripture helped him see business not as something separate from ministry, but as a place where people can serve, worship, grow, and influence others. That conviction eventually led Chris and his wife into entrepreneurship. One of the companies they built was a staffing agency that placed around 20,000 refugees into jobs across the United States over eight years and grew to 14 offices. Along the way, Chris wrestled with an important question: How can a company pursue meaningful spiritual impact while also remaining financially healthy? He shares a simple approach built around spiritual integration activities and spiritual formation outcomes, helping business leaders think intentionally about what they can do, what they can measure, and what they must ultimately trust God to accomplish. The episode closes with three practical encouragements for faith-driven entrepreneurs: pursue faith-aligned mentors, pursue faith-aligned capital, and practice intentional generosity. This is an honest conversation about persistence, stewardship, dependence on God, and learning to see business as a place of discipleship. - 00:00 Introduction - 01:15 Guest Intro - 03:51 Bridging Ministry - 07:57 Business and Discipleship - 12:20 Business Journey - 19:18 Tools for Business - 24:10 Final Insights - 32:02 Conclusion **5 Key Takeaways** 1\. **Business can be a place of discipleship** Chris explains that business creates daily opportunities for dependence on God, growth, refinement, and faith. The pressures, decisions, risks, and uncertainty of business can draw a person closer to the Lord when they are open to that process. 2\. **Spiritual impact should be intentionally connected to the business model** Chris describes the importance of identifying opportunities for spiritual impact within the existing mission, goals, relationships, and stakeholders of the company rather than creating activities that compete with the financial health of the business. 3\. **Measure the activities you can control and pray for the outcomes you cannot** The conversation distinguishes between spiritual integration activities, such as prayer, devotionals, counseling, chaplaincy, or other intentional practices, and spiritual formation outcomes, such as people coming to faith or becoming involved in a local church. Leaders can measure whether activities happened while recognizing that spiritual outcomes are ultimately not theirs to control. 4\. **Persistence changes the meaning of failure** Chris and Steve discuss how failure can become a source of learning when a person continues, adapts, and refuses to quit. As Steve puts it in the conversation, without persistence, failure becomes final and costly; with persistence, lessons can emerge from it. 5\. **Faith-driven entrepreneurs should pursue aligned relationships and generosity** Chris closes with three areas of encouragement: work hard to find faith-aligned mentors, pursue faith-aligned capital before it is urgently needed, and practice generosity with time and resources. He also shares how generosity surrounding the sale of his business changed his perspective and eventually connected with his work at the National Christian Foundation. Watch full episode on YT - https://youtu.be/dgS4qUp-OV0 Join the free Third Fish Academy at [ThirdFish.org](ThirdFish.org)