Lindsay CrouseGuestSonya LooneyHostAnd I loved how your first chapter is about perseverance because when I was preparing for this podcast, I thought I was like, I want to talk about success and defining success.
It's perseverance, right? exactly and we have been told over and over and over never give up like we celebrate like like you said we celebrate everybody that pushes on no matter what their bodies are shutting down they're doing everything they can to get to a proverbial finish line but they're like abandoning themselves in the process of that and as women you know I personally felt a lot of pressure because it's like, well, now I have to be the person who holds up the sky for everybody else.
Because if I quit, then it confirms what everybody else believed was true about like female athletes.
And I think women across many different areas feel this pressure that I can't quit because I have to hold the sky up because the culture we live in is trying to prove it otherwise.

um, Yeah, a lot of us grew up with those sort of avatars of the tough man, right? Like the Marlboro man, the Terminator.

And at the same time, there are politicians who question whether their female political rivals have the stamina to actually run and to serve.

I mean, it makes sense that we would feel this pressure around quitting and this kind of conviction that never giving up is one form of success, not only for ourselves and to prove that we can do it to ourselves, but to prove it for other people too.

But I think the problem is that if you never stop and you say yes to all of these things and don't prune and don't curate, eventually someone's going to pay the toll and it's going to be you.

So quitting is the only way to avoid that and kind of retake, reclaim control over your life.
It's about like parenting because my kids like I play them this song by Sia, The Greatest, because at the end they're learning perseverance.
And I loved how your first chapter is about perseverance because when I was preparing for this podcast, I thought I was like, I want to talk about success and defining success.
It's perseverance, right? exactly and we have been told over and over and over never give up like we celebrate like like you said we celebrate everybody that pushes on no matter what their bodies are shutting down they're doing everything they can to get to a proverbial finish line but they're like abandoning themselves in the process of that and as women you know I personally felt a lot of pressure because it's like, well, now I have to be the person who holds up the sky for everybody else.
Because if I quit, then it confirms what everybody else believed was true about like female athletes.
And I think women across many different areas feel this pressure that I can't quit because I have to hold the sky up because the culture we live in is trying to prove it otherwise.

um, Yeah, a lot of us grew up with those sort of avatars of the tough man, right? Like the Marlboro man, the Terminator.

And at the same time, there are politicians who question whether their female political rivals have the stamina to actually run and to serve.

I mean, it makes sense that we would feel this pressure around quitting and this kind of conviction that never giving up is one form of success, not only for ourselves and to prove that we can do it to ourselves, but to prove it for other people too.

But I think the problem is that if you never stop and you say yes to all of these things and don't prune and don't curate, eventually someone's going to pay the toll and it's going to be you.

So quitting is the only way to avoid that and kind of retake, reclaim control over your life.
It's about like parenting because my kids like I play them this song by Sia, The Greatest, because at the end they're learning perseverance.
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