Misha B Ahrens

It's at a lab called Janelia, which is in, um, northern Virginia outside of DC.

And there's a, a neuroscientist there named Misha Ahrens who's doing a lot of research on these zebrafish and, and around how they encounter futility.

So zebrafish, they're, they're really small, tiny animals.

They need to know how to quit in order to survive.