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Gold Goats 'n Guns Podcast

Gold Goats 'n Guns Podcast

Episode #239 - Brent Johnson and Honestly Assessing the State of the Great Game

Dec 4, 2025 · 1 hr 7 min · 17 segments

Santiago Capital CEO Brent Johnson returns to the podcast to discuss stablecoins, geopolitics, and how the Great Game of global capital is progressing. I appreciate Brent's realist approach to both…

Santiago Capital CEO Brent Johnson returns to the podcast to discuss stablecoins, geopolitics, and how the Great Game of global capital is progressing. I appreciate Brent's realist approach to both markets and politics and how his journey has shaped how he sees things unfolding. Show Notes: Brent on X Santiago Capital Tom on X GGnG Patreon

Santiago Capital CEO Brent Johnson returns to the podcast to discuss stablecoins, geopolitics, and how the Great Game of global capital is progressing. I appreciate Brent's realist approach to both…

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Speakers: Brent JohnsonGuestTom LuongoHost

Top entities: Tether×7 Donald Trump×8 United States Department of the Treasury×13 GENIUS Act×5 Federal Reserve System×19

Show signals: SuitabilitySensitiveBiasRightAudience≈37k followers

Thanksgiving and Time Off1:48 – 2:37

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

1:48

I'm good.

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

1:48

Just got

T

1:49

back from Thanksgiving, which was fantastic.

T

1:51

And so back at work.

T

1:52

Yeah, that's kind of the way I took, I don't know about it.

T

1:56

I don't know, 12 hours off or 14 hours off.

T

1:58

And I went right back to it.

T

1:59

Like my wife complains to me all the time.

T

2:00

It's like, stop looking at your phone.

T

2:02

I'm like, I can't help it.

T

2:04

I actually took,

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

2:05

I actually, it's the first trip I have gone in and I don't know how many years where I did not take my laptop with me and did not like log in during the day.

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

2:14

So it was a, it was a, I had, it was four days, but it was fantastic.

T

2:17

Good, good, good.

T

2:18

You have to recharge every once in a while, and I'm looking forward to, actually, to be honest with you, I hate to admit this in public, but tomorrow, Guild Wars Reforged drops, and I think we're all just going to take two days off and play that for a couple days, which will be a lot of fun.

T

2:30

So I've got a small group that I play with on a semi-regular basis.

T

2:34

So let's not talk about that stuff anymore.

T

2:37

Let's actually get to it.

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98%8 mentions
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89%102 mentions
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64%2 mentions
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U.S. Dollar StablecoinsFinance > Monetary Systems > Stablecoins
Genius Act RegulationFinance > Monetary Systems > Stablecoins > U.S. Dollar Stablecoins
International Monetary EconomicsEconomics
Eurodollar SystemEconomics > International Monetary Economics
Onshore-Offshore Dollar SeparationEconomics > International Monetary Economics > Eurodollar System
Dollar Liquidity and Leverage ControlsEconomics > International Monetary Economics > Eurodollar System > Onshore-Offshore Dollar Separation
Dollar HegemonyGeopolitics > U.S. Global Strategy
Monetary Influence Over Foreign StatesGeopolitics > U.S. Global Strategy > Dollar Hegemony
Stablecoin-Driven DollarizationGeopolitics > U.S. Global Strategy > Dollar Hegemony > Monetary Influence Over Foreign States
Treasury-Federal Reserve RelationsGovernment > U.S. Federal Government
Treasury-Controlled Digital MoneyGovernment > U.S. Federal Government > Treasury-Federal Reserve Relations
Public-Private Monetary InfrastructureGovernment > U.S. Federal Government > Treasury-Federal Reserve Relations > Treasury-Controlled Digital Money
National Security InvestmentBusiness > Industrial Policy
Office of Strategic CapitalBusiness > Industrial Policy > National Security Investment
Critical Minerals and Strategic ManufacturingBusiness > Industrial Policy > National Security Investment > Office of Strategic Capital
U.S. Global StrategyGeopolitics
Industrial PolicyBusiness
U.S. Federal GovernmentGovernment
StablecoinsFinance > Monetary Systems
Monetary SystemsFinance
Economics
Government
Business
Finance
Geopolitics

Thanksgiving and Time Off1:48 – 2:37

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

1:48

I'm good.

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

1:48

Just got

T

1:49

back from Thanksgiving, which was fantastic.

T

1:51

And so back at work.

T

1:52

Yeah, that's kind of the way I took, I don't know about it.

T

1:56

I don't know, 12 hours off or 14 hours off.

T

1:58

And I went right back to it.

T

1:59

Like my wife complains to me all the time.

T

2:00

It's like, stop looking at your phone.

T

2:02

I'm like, I can't help it.

T

2:04

I actually took,

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

2:05

I actually, it's the first trip I have gone in and I don't know how many years where I did not take my laptop with me and did not like log in during the day.

B

Brent JohnsonGuest

2:14

So it was a, it was a, I had, it was four days, but it was fantastic.

T

2:17

Good, good, good.

T

2:18

You have to recharge every once in a while, and I'm looking forward to, actually, to be honest with you, I hate to admit this in public, but tomorrow, Guild Wars Reforged drops, and I think we're all just going to take two days off and play that for a couple days, which will be a lot of fun.

T

2:30

So I've got a small group that I play with on a semi-regular basis.

T

2:34

So let's not talk about that stuff anymore.

T

2:37

Let's actually get to it.

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