Sep 21, 2026 · 49 min · 20 segments
There’s no such thing as “associate membership” in the European Union and nobody knows what it means, but Prime Minister Mark Carney’s proposal for it has proven to be a dazzling distraction as he…
Brian LilleyHost
Carlo DadeGuest
Anand MenonGuestThe economics of this are clear.
The leverage of the powerful in an exploitive relationship collapses well before complete independence is achieved because diversity confers advantage.
The objective is not self-sufficiency, it's collective resilience.
He talks about how he's not doing this in response to the United States and then talks about the Americans without naming them as an abusive relationship.
Later in the speech, he went on to talk about how, well, we have better manners than the Americans.
I also want to be precise about what I am not proposing.
I'm not proposing a third bloc in order to become a great power rival only with better manners.
We are not...
Fairweather allies, we do not pursue zero-sum deals.
Our commitment to the rule of law and our unyielding defence of human dignity, individual freedom and democracy share the same deep roots, the same unwavering dedication.
We hold common values for which we have always fought and in whose defense we must always remain vigilant.
We believe that a strong economy is not an end in itself, but a means to a just society.
You can see the political thread throughout Carney's speech, and of course that's against the backdrop of Donald Trump saying that he would impose tariffs on the EU and Canada if this was seen as a hostile act or coming from a bad place.
But what to make of the trade side of this? Well, Anand Menon is a professor of European politics and foreign affairs at King's College London and director of the UK and a Changing Europe Initiative.
He knows how the EU operates, and he has some thoughts that might help Canadians try and understand what we're entering into.
The economics of this are clear.
The leverage of the powerful in an exploitive relationship collapses well before complete independence is achieved because diversity confers advantage.
The objective is not self-sufficiency, it's collective resilience.
He talks about how he's not doing this in response to the United States and then talks about the Americans without naming them as an abusive relationship.
Later in the speech, he went on to talk about how, well, we have better manners than the Americans.
I also want to be precise about what I am not proposing.
I'm not proposing a third bloc in order to become a great power rival only with better manners.
We are not...
Fairweather allies, we do not pursue zero-sum deals.
Our commitment to the rule of law and our unyielding defence of human dignity, individual freedom and democracy share the same deep roots, the same unwavering dedication.
We hold common values for which we have always fought and in whose defense we must always remain vigilant.
We believe that a strong economy is not an end in itself, but a means to a just society.
You can see the political thread throughout Carney's speech, and of course that's against the backdrop of Donald Trump saying that he would impose tariffs on the EU and Canada if this was seen as a hostile act or coming from a bad place.
But what to make of the trade side of this? Well, Anand Menon is a professor of European politics and foreign affairs at King's College London and director of the UK and a Changing Europe Initiative.
He knows how the EU operates, and he has some thoughts that might help Canadians try and understand what we're entering into.
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