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Fighting Fascism Podcast

Fighting Fascism Podcast

Trumpism Abroad (w/ American Prestige)

Jun 15, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min · 10 segments

That’s right, friends…it’s another crossover episode! We were joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison from American Prestige, a podcast that offers a left analysis on international affairs…

That’s right, friends…it’s another crossover episode! We were joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison from American Prestige, a podcast that offers a left analysis on international affairs. Which…we got to eventually (Iran, Israel, USAID, what Democrats’ foreign policy should look like, all the hits)…but only after Daniel and Aaron ended once and for all the age-old debate of: Is Trumpism fascism? All this and more on this banger of a crossover! Fighting Fascism Podcast is produced by Nik Damants in collaboration with The Nation. Intro song and music by Horse Radish. Follow us! Instagram @FightFascismPod BlueSky @FightingFascismPod.bsky.social Twitter @FightFascismPod

That’s right, friends…it’s another crossover episode! We were joined by Daniel Bessner and Derek Davison from American Prestige, a podcast that offers a left analysis on international affairs…

Top entities: Adolf Hitler×11 Donald Trump×27 United States×91 Trumpism×6 Nazi Germany×9

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Speakers: Daniel BessnerGuestDerek DavidsonGuestAaron RegunbergHostMatt DaSilvaHost

Show signals: SuitabilitySensitiveBiasLeftAudience≈53k followers

Crossover Banter & Host Catch-Up0:38 – 4:32

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:38

Well, hello, and welcome to another episode of the Fighting Fascism podcast, or should I say a crossover episode between Fighting Fascism and American Prestige, which is, uh-

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

0:47

Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, crossover

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:49

... another great show, um, that is also, uh, in collaboration with The Nation.

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:54

Uh, I'm your co-host, Aaron Regunberg, and here with, uh, the wonderful Matt DaSilva.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:00

How's it going, Matt?

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:00

Yeah.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:00

It's good.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:01

I don't know why I made those, um, DJ noises.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:03

Yep.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:03

Those were some good wah, wah, wahs.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:05

[laughs] That's, that's not what crossovers-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:07

That's what everyone, uh, thinks of crossover.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:10

[laughs]

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:10

[laughs]

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:10

Wah, wah, wah.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:11

I, I looked up, I tried to figure out if there was an ER-Friends crossover, but-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:16

There was

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:16

... oh, there was?

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:18

Yeah, yeah.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:18

Uh, uh-

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:19

Oh, I love that

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:20

...

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:20

Rachel and, and what's the black-haired one's... [laughs]

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:24

Uh-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:24

It's crazy, it's crazy-

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100%11 mentions
Donald TrumpPerson45th and 47th U.S. President
99%27 mentions
United StatesCountryCountry in North America
98%91 mentions
TrumpismOrganization
97%6 mentions
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96%9 mentions
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95%3 mentions
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95%13 mentions
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94%12 mentions
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93%6 mentions
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92%4 mentions
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91%1 mention
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90%8 mentions
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90%13 mentions
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89%4 mentions
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88%24 mentions
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87%1 mention
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86%13 mentions
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86%1 mention
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81%5 mentions
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77%1 mention
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Tucker CarlsonPersonAmerican commentator and journalist
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Daniel BessnerPersonAmerican historian
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70%2 mentions
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69%3 mentions
Heinrich BrüningPersonFormer Chancellor of the German Reich
68%3 mentions
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67%3 mentions
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67%2 mentions
Hakeem JeffriesPersonMinority Leader of the U.S House of Representatives
66%2 mentions
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65%1 mention
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64%1 mention
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63%1 mention
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Society
International RelationsGovernment
Social MovementsSociety
Political HistoryHistory > Historical Context
U.S. Economic PolicyEconomics > Economic Policy
FascismPolitics > Political Discourse
Leftist MovementsSociety > Social Movements > Activism > Political Activism
Foreign PolicyGovernment > International Relations
ActivismSociety > Social Movements
Fascism in HistoryHistory > Historical Context > Political History
Economic PolicyEconomics
Historical ContextHistory
Political ActivismSociety > Social Movements > Activism
Political DiscoursePolitics
Politics
History
Economics
Government
U.S. PoliticsPolitics > Political Discourse > Fascism
TrumpismPolitics > Political Discourse > Fascism > U.S. Politics
Geopolitical DynamicsGovernment > International Relations > Foreign Policy > U.S. Foreign Policy
China RelationsGovernment > International Relations > Foreign Policy > U.S. Foreign Policy > Geopolitical Dynamics
Interwar EuropeHistory > Historical Context > Political History > Fascism in History
Impact of Foreign AidEconomics > Economic Policy > U.S. Economic Policy
USAID DismantlingEconomics > Economic Policy > U.S. Economic Policy > Impact of Foreign Aid
U.S. Foreign PolicyGovernment > International Relations > Foreign Policy

Crossover Banter & Host Catch-Up0:38 – 4:32

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:38

Well, hello, and welcome to another episode of the Fighting Fascism podcast, or should I say a crossover episode between Fighting Fascism and American Prestige, which is, uh-

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

0:47

Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, crossover

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:49

... another great show, um, that is also, uh, in collaboration with The Nation.

Aaron RegunbergHost

0:54

Uh, I'm your co-host, Aaron Regunberg, and here with, uh, the wonderful Matt DaSilva.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:00

How's it going, Matt?

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:00

Yeah.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:00

It's good.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:01

I don't know why I made those, um, DJ noises.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:03

Yep.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:03

Those were some good wah, wah, wahs.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:05

[laughs] That's, that's not what crossovers-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:07

That's what everyone, uh, thinks of crossover.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:10

[laughs]

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:10

[laughs]

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:10

Wah, wah, wah.

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:11

I, I looked up, I tried to figure out if there was an ER-Friends crossover, but-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:16

There was

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:16

... oh, there was?

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:18

Yeah, yeah.

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:18

Uh, uh-

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:19

Oh, I love that

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:20

...

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:20

Rachel and, and what's the black-haired one's... [laughs]

M

Matt DaSilvaHost

1:24

Uh-

Aaron RegunbergHost

1:24

It's crazy, it's crazy-

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