Plague 4

Oh, has there ever been a spiritual leadership vacuum in the household? And you can be honest.

We've been married 22 years.

I don't know what you mean.

Okay, vacuum... [laughs]

Like, there's an absence.

There's a-

Yes

... there's a hole somewhere.

Just use the word.

I don't know why the vacuum has to... [laughs]

It's referring to if there's a vacuum in, in, in space, there's nothing there.

Okay, well-

There's a, it's a-

... vacuum to me means not that.

[laughs]

My good-

[laughs]

I didn't realize this was actually a tripping point.

Well, I'm a little tired, okay? It's the afternoon, so.

Has there been a l- an, a lack of spiritual leadership in the household?

Yes.

That was a little too fast.

[laughs] Goodness.

[laughs] You can't say you've had a perfect record as-

Mm