Shaun EngGuest
Monish SabnaniHostWe've talked a little bit about marketing, but what's your view on product? And do you think, can you out-market a bad product? Where does LTV2Cat come in? Retention, all this kind of thing.
Is there a point where you just have to think about product and improve that in parallel? Or are you just marketing only at the start and then deal with product down the line? Where's your position on that?

A lot of people just start off doing the marketing-only route, which can work, but oftentimes it's not really sustainable if you just keep marketing like a shitty product.

At the very start, you want to make some cash, you want to make some claims that may or may not be true.

a lot of brands are in this scenario where they're just like facebook arbitrage and then to sustain that growth for like not so good product it's really just getting more aggressive and more aggressive with their claims more aggressive across different channels which hey if you want to do that you know good for you i'm in a position where yo i just want to make a good product good lcd good positioning where i can be less reliant on making like clipping up with winning ads and still scale.

So which is why you look at grants, right? If you look at grants ad library, it's not like they're doing direct response insanely well.
even if you have shitty ads.
When you think of, you know, across all the businesses you're helping, right? Are these mainly product businesses like Evergreen product or are they subscription or is it all across the board? So

All of the 54 dudes we help scale to 100K a day, 10% of them were in supplements.

And would you say these are products or brands? For our community, at least, they're not really like proper brands just yet.

They know how to market, but they don't really know how to position their brand further.
We've talked a little bit about marketing, but what's your view on product? And do you think, can you out-market a bad product? Where does LTV2Cat come in? Retention, all this kind of thing.
Is there a point where you just have to think about product and improve that in parallel? Or are you just marketing only at the start and then deal with product down the line? Where's your position on that?

A lot of people just start off doing the marketing-only route, which can work, but oftentimes it's not really sustainable if you just keep marketing like a shitty product.

At the very start, you want to make some cash, you want to make some claims that may or may not be true.

a lot of brands are in this scenario where they're just like facebook arbitrage and then to sustain that growth for like not so good product it's really just getting more aggressive and more aggressive with their claims more aggressive across different channels which hey if you want to do that you know good for you i'm in a position where yo i just want to make a good product good lcd good positioning where i can be less reliant on making like clipping up with winning ads and still scale.

So which is why you look at grants, right? If you look at grants ad library, it's not like they're doing direct response insanely well.
even if you have shitty ads.
When you think of, you know, across all the businesses you're helping, right? Are these mainly product businesses like Evergreen product or are they subscription or is it all across the board? So

All of the 54 dudes we help scale to 100K a day, 10% of them were in supplements.

And would you say these are products or brands? For our community, at least, they're not really like proper brands just yet.

They know how to market, but they don't really know how to position their brand further.
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