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Eugene Schwartz

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Oct 15, 2026

Jason LeGUEST
33:40
So I think over time, and I, I come from a bit of a direct response marketing background, so I, I, I was a bit of a nerd.
Jason LeGUEST
33:48
I used to read, like, magazines and newsletters from, like, Eugene Schwartz and l- like, you know, these, these really old marketing guys in, like-
ChloeHOST
33:56
Yeah
Jason LeGUEST
33:56
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Vishen LakhianiGUEST
13:56
Now, it depends on who you're talking to.
Vishen LakhianiGUEST
14:00
So there's a concept in marketing called market sophistication by a marketer called Eugene Schwartz.
Vishen LakhianiGUEST
14:06
And Eugene Schwartz says that when you're getting a new idea out to the world, if the idea was relatively new, you speak in terms of benefits.
Vishen LakhianiGUEST
14:19
But if there's a lot of competition, if the idea is out there already, you speak in terms of mechanism or the technology of what makes it unique.
Vishen LakhianiGUEST
14:28
Now, when the personal growth industry first started, they spoke in terms of benefits, find love, live longer, have greater confidence, sleep better, discover your spirituality, very basic benefits.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
1:57
Let's first start off by connecting this to the last episode, episode 184.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
2:04
In part one, we talked about Eugene Schwartz's five stages of awareness.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
2:09
I'll put a link in the show notes to his book and to the episode.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
2:14
As part of that, we talked about how most sports teams are promoting group tickets to people who are already thinking about buying them.
Anthony OnwurahHOST
1:23
That's that.
Anthony OnwurahHOST
1:23
I think Eugene Schwartz, you know, that guy that wrote Breakthrough Marketing.
Anthony OnwurahHOST
1:27
That's what he shared.
Anthony OnwurahHOST
1:29
And he breaks down again in one of his principles known as the five levels of awareness that someone has to go through in order to become a customer.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:11
The five stages of awareness.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:14
There is a concept from Eugene Schwartz's book, Breakthrough Advertising, that I think every sports marketer should understand.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:22
I'm going to put a link in the show notes to this if you're interested at all.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:26
The book is $147, but it might be the most important marketing book ever.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:32
anyone has ever read in their life.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:34
Sure, that sounds like hyperbole, but I'm gonna explain in the next little bit why I think it is the most important book because it sets the foundation for how marketing and advertising actually works.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:47
It's by Eugene Schwartz, Breakthrough Advertising.
Jeremy NeisserHOST
5:50
Maybe you can find it at your local library or a used bookstore near you.
Graham ArrowsmithHOST
23:35
I think it was chapter seven that I was looking at earlier.
Graham ArrowsmithHOST
23:38
Uh, and, and you talk about Eugene Schwartz, which, you know, I've got his books, and, you know, he's, he's w- long gone now, of course.
Robin WaiteGUEST
23:45
Yeah.
Graham ArrowsmithHOST
23:46
But you picked up on his, his thinking to do with marketing, to do with, shall we say, uh, that, that whole area of marketing, but you've applied pricing.
Kevin ApplebyHOST
27:15
Because I still believe very much that despite all of the social media, all of this internet, et cetera, people still buy from people.
Robin WaiteGUEST
27:24
Yes.
Kevin ApplebyHOST
27:25
And Eugene Schwartz actually had it right back in the '60s about relationships.
Kevin ApplebyHOST
27:30
Yeah.
Philippa CraddockHOST
7:01
It might be a moment from your week or something the client said.
Philippa CraddockHOST
7:05
I made a note a while ago of a book called Breakthrough Advertising by the American copywriter Eugene Schwartz.
Philippa CraddockHOST
7:12
It came out back in 1966, long before Instagram or any of the platforms that we use now.
Philippa CraddockHOST
7:19
And one of his best known lines is that copy cannot create desire for a product.
Kyle RoachHOST
2:58
So if we think about the psychological levers that a patient goes through when they have a problem, right? There's different awareness stages.
Kyle RoachHOST
3:07
I think Eugene Schwartz is an old white guy that wrote a book way back when, but some psychologist marketing dude, and basically outlined that uh the first level uh awareness stage is unaware you may have this you know thing that's going on in your life but you're unaware that it has a name or that it's a problem second step from there would be you are problem aware okay my headaches and migraines are getting a little bit more consistent and more painful and now i'm you know really aware that hey this is becoming a regular occurrence From there, I may start to do some research on how I can solve this problem.
Kyle RoachHOST
3:47
So I become solution aware.
Kyle RoachHOST
3:49
I'm looking at massage.
Joseph RodriguesHOST
8:09
and do it your way go to places where you can have a wonderful time and just start having conversations with people and if you go to places where your ideal prospects would be of course you're going to get some clients of course you're going to grow your business and If you are interested in lead generation or want to do a combination of the two, then consider putting up some videos on YouTube, talking about what you're interested in.
Joseph RodriguesHOST
8:33
Consider the five stages of awareness, Eugene Schwartz, for example, when creating content.
Joseph RodriguesHOST
8:39
Where would your leads and clients be at on the journey? They are unaware that they have a problem or maybe they're aware that they have a problem, problem aware.
Joseph RodriguesHOST
8:50
Maybe now they're aware of the problem and they're aware of the various solutions that are available.
Alex HormoziHOST
11:41
My hooks playbook? Yes, exactly.
Alex HormoziHOST
11:43
So on the levels of awareness piece- The Five Levels of Awareness is a framework by Eugene Schwartz, where every person in a market falls into five categories, so your advertising should speak to them differently.
Alex HormoziHOST
11:54
He contends that audiences go from the bottom, which is the warmest and smallest group, to the top, which is the coldest and largest.
Alex HormoziHOST
12:02
For Mim's business, in order to continue to scale her ads, she needs to target more pain or problem aware audiences rather than product or offer aware audiences to make sure that you don't get caught in, like, when you scale it up, you scale up your ads, they don't perform.

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