Sep 21, 2026 · 29 min · 13 segments
What if the biggest flaw in cybersecurity is that we wait for something bad to be identified before we block it? In Episode 32 of the Efani Features Podcast, host **Mark Kreitzman** sits down with…
David RedekopGuest
Mark KreitzmanHost
The biggest problem on the internet that facilitates cybercrime, phishing, invalid or dysfunctional content filters, and overall is just the porosity problem.
The biggest problem that we found that needed to be solved is the porosity problem.
What initially started out as a core feature of the ARPANET that became the Internet was the ability to route around roadblocks, to be able to route around problems.
global commerce engines around it, but it's also something that the bad guys decided that they could easily weaponize.
And that's why today the biggest problem in the enterprise and SMBs and in homes is that once a piece of malware or a link lands on the inside of a network, the outbound access to that is the single biggest area of weakness.
And so we knew that focusing on the egress control aspect would be the way to solve that problem.
And who would be the, what's the perfect profile? Like if somebody's watching this video and they're trying to figure out, is Adam Networks for me? Is this something I should consider? What would be the perfect profile for, of the type of environment that they would have in order to consider out of networks being like the way to go.
Right, I would say that the perfect profile of an environment is someone that a understands the risks where they originate from.
And that having all these multiple layers as necessary as they may be, if there's one area of weakness, that is what the adversary will take advantage of.
So being educated and understanding that there is a risk on that egress side that has not traditionally been addressed is number one.
It could be a small organization that has very valuable intellectual property that they simply want to preserve when they get attacked.
Because what ends up happening today with the multiple extortion techniques is that once an attacker is on the inside, the exfiltration of the data disappears.
And so because the attack chain is always multiple steps before most of the damage is done, the important thing is to disrupt that attack chain somewhere along the way, especially at the point where data gets exfiltrated.
And so that would be a client that's educated and someone that has valuable data protect that doesn't want to go down the path of calling the cyber insurance policy underwriter to say we've been hit because a lot of policies now don't cover stuff or they give you a one time coverage and then never again.
So insurance companies have woken up to the fact that cyber insurance did not make the money.
The biggest problem on the internet that facilitates cybercrime, phishing, invalid or dysfunctional content filters, and overall is just the porosity problem.
The biggest problem that we found that needed to be solved is the porosity problem.
What initially started out as a core feature of the ARPANET that became the Internet was the ability to route around roadblocks, to be able to route around problems.
global commerce engines around it, but it's also something that the bad guys decided that they could easily weaponize.
And that's why today the biggest problem in the enterprise and SMBs and in homes is that once a piece of malware or a link lands on the inside of a network, the outbound access to that is the single biggest area of weakness.
And so we knew that focusing on the egress control aspect would be the way to solve that problem.
And who would be the, what's the perfect profile? Like if somebody's watching this video and they're trying to figure out, is Adam Networks for me? Is this something I should consider? What would be the perfect profile for, of the type of environment that they would have in order to consider out of networks being like the way to go.
Right, I would say that the perfect profile of an environment is someone that a understands the risks where they originate from.
And that having all these multiple layers as necessary as they may be, if there's one area of weakness, that is what the adversary will take advantage of.
So being educated and understanding that there is a risk on that egress side that has not traditionally been addressed is number one.
It could be a small organization that has very valuable intellectual property that they simply want to preserve when they get attacked.
Because what ends up happening today with the multiple extortion techniques is that once an attacker is on the inside, the exfiltration of the data disappears.
And so because the attack chain is always multiple steps before most of the damage is done, the important thing is to disrupt that attack chain somewhere along the way, especially at the point where data gets exfiltrated.
And so that would be a client that's educated and someone that has valuable data protect that doesn't want to go down the path of calling the cyber insurance policy underwriter to say we've been hit because a lot of policies now don't cover stuff or they give you a one time coverage and then never again.
So insurance companies have woken up to the fact that cyber insurance did not make the money.
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