EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT: A Wine Podcast Exploring Wine Regions, Grapes & Education
Aug 17, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 13 segments
What are the Spanish wine regions and grape varieties you need to know beyond Rioja and Ribera del Duero? In this episode of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina heads to Spain with…
Sarah Jane EvansGuestJanina DoréHostYou also are now hopefully [laughs] gonna take us down another path, which is vino de pago, which is...

Well, actually, it was after I first came into wine writing, but it, it, uh, it started off in about exactly 2003.

So here we are, vino de pago means a wine from a single vin- vineyard or single estate.

So it's, if you happen to have an, a lovely piece of land, you probably got quite a bit of cash.

And the nicest thing to do is to have a vineyard, and you recognize that your wine is not inside any of the well-known denominations.

But if you try and sell this wine from some unknown place, you're gonna get nowhere.

So very, very smart winemaker and member of the Spanish aristocracy, the Marqués de Griñón, who had studied at UC Davis, created with a friend, who was the first two vinos de pago, and his was called Dominio de Valdepusa.

We will be our own regulators." I've been talking about the regulator from Sherry.

It'll be our estate, and it will be called whatever we choose to call it." And they did fulfill all sorts of regulations.

Now, what was interesting is that the first ones who joined came from Castilla La Mancha, and we all know that La Mancha is, you know, windmill country, and people had never took wines from windmill country very seriously.

And so I have to say all credit to him for saying, "We're going to make something special about these wines." Time passes, and more and more come, and the very distinctive thing is that nearly every single one of them is so- is south of Madrid.
You also are now hopefully [laughs] gonna take us down another path, which is vino de pago, which is...

Well, actually, it was after I first came into wine writing, but it, it, uh, it started off in about exactly 2003.

So here we are, vino de pago means a wine from a single vin- vineyard or single estate.

So it's, if you happen to have an, a lovely piece of land, you probably got quite a bit of cash.

And the nicest thing to do is to have a vineyard, and you recognize that your wine is not inside any of the well-known denominations.

But if you try and sell this wine from some unknown place, you're gonna get nowhere.

So very, very smart winemaker and member of the Spanish aristocracy, the Marqués de Griñón, who had studied at UC Davis, created with a friend, who was the first two vinos de pago, and his was called Dominio de Valdepusa.

We will be our own regulators." I've been talking about the regulator from Sherry.

It'll be our estate, and it will be called whatever we choose to call it." And they did fulfill all sorts of regulations.

Now, what was interesting is that the first ones who joined came from Castilla La Mancha, and we all know that La Mancha is, you know, windmill country, and people had never took wines from windmill country very seriously.

And so I have to say all credit to him for saying, "We're going to make something special about these wines." Time passes, and more and more come, and the very distinctive thing is that nearly every single one of them is so- is south of Madrid.
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