Aug 24, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 13 segments
Are Flock Safety cameras keeping our neighborhoods safe, or are we sleepwalking into an unchecked private surveillance dragnet? When does legitimate workplace Data Loss Prevention (DLP) cross the line…
Damian ChungHost
Troy WilkinsonHostIn general.
now and then um and more so recently i've seen these things about flock cameras and i'm like oh this is interesting because i'm i'm used to the cameras at the stoplights right you know 20 years ago you'd go by a traffic or you go through an intersection um and you would see like the little camera up top right occasionally here and there now they're everywhere and i understand why they're there right because accidents tend to happen at intersections and safety things and I believe there's sensors on those cameras for, like, fire departments to come through, right? Like, if your house is burning, you want the fire truck to make it through the light safely.
So I get why they're there.
I don't necessarily understand why these cameras are in other places now.
That to me seems like, where did this come from? Because I didn't realize this until like two months ago.

Well, I think in the news too, there have been cities that are trying to back out of this flock system or their residents are saying, we don't want them.

So I think this is an interesting topic and it kind of rolls right into what your employer does in terms of surveillance of your activities or making sure data is not stolen.

So this is a really good conversation because when it comes to the flock cameras, I think there's a natural need to be able to track, let's say, a child gets kidnapped.

Those flock cameras are super valuable in that case because they can track the potential kidnapper in their car to exactly where they've been, where they're going, and where they are right now to save that child's life.

So in my perspective, My mind right now, I think there's a lot of benefits for that.

But I know that you guys have some concerns around privacy and maybe your late night poker sessions, grabbing ice cream.

Do the cops, when they pull you over, know that you're coming from the casino? Who else can get access to that?

We've seen in the news where even officials, law enforcement officials, have used these camera systems to track their relationship partners.

So can we really trust that the government or these officers individually are going to use them with the utmost integrity and ethics? Yeah.


I think there was a police chief that was using it for personal reasons, which is probably against the privacy violation of the use of those cameras.

So let me ask you this, Troy, from a compliance governance standpoint, what would you expect to be in place for that type of data and acceptable use for that type of data?

Yeah, so on the law enforcement side, if you mean the officers who are accessing that data, access logs are crucial, the output.

So there's the National Crime and Information Computer System, NCIC, is what all of the warrants and background checks for people when the police run your background on the side of the road.

This computer system, I was an administrator back in the day, and it is like you have to get almost a security clearance to run it.
In general.
now and then um and more so recently i've seen these things about flock cameras and i'm like oh this is interesting because i'm i'm used to the cameras at the stoplights right you know 20 years ago you'd go by a traffic or you go through an intersection um and you would see like the little camera up top right occasionally here and there now they're everywhere and i understand why they're there right because accidents tend to happen at intersections and safety things and I believe there's sensors on those cameras for, like, fire departments to come through, right? Like, if your house is burning, you want the fire truck to make it through the light safely.
So I get why they're there.
I don't necessarily understand why these cameras are in other places now.
That to me seems like, where did this come from? Because I didn't realize this until like two months ago.

Well, I think in the news too, there have been cities that are trying to back out of this flock system or their residents are saying, we don't want them.

So I think this is an interesting topic and it kind of rolls right into what your employer does in terms of surveillance of your activities or making sure data is not stolen.

So this is a really good conversation because when it comes to the flock cameras, I think there's a natural need to be able to track, let's say, a child gets kidnapped.

Those flock cameras are super valuable in that case because they can track the potential kidnapper in their car to exactly where they've been, where they're going, and where they are right now to save that child's life.

So in my perspective, My mind right now, I think there's a lot of benefits for that.

But I know that you guys have some concerns around privacy and maybe your late night poker sessions, grabbing ice cream.

Do the cops, when they pull you over, know that you're coming from the casino? Who else can get access to that?

We've seen in the news where even officials, law enforcement officials, have used these camera systems to track their relationship partners.

So can we really trust that the government or these officers individually are going to use them with the utmost integrity and ethics? Yeah.


I think there was a police chief that was using it for personal reasons, which is probably against the privacy violation of the use of those cameras.

So let me ask you this, Troy, from a compliance governance standpoint, what would you expect to be in place for that type of data and acceptable use for that type of data?

Yeah, so on the law enforcement side, if you mean the officers who are accessing that data, access logs are crucial, the output.

So there's the National Crime and Information Computer System, NCIC, is what all of the warrants and background checks for people when the police run your background on the side of the road.

This computer system, I was an administrator back in the day, and it is like you have to get almost a security clearance to run it.
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