Oct 13, 2026 · 48 min · 11 segments
What does it really mean to be good with money? And how do you plan for financial independence when your life doesn’t follow the traditional path of marriage, homeownership, and kids? In this episode…
Kelley LongGuest
Tony MoceriHost
Melissa CasseraHost
So that's very interesting about what you said with your identity work, just to loop back to that a little bit, because you grew up telling yourself or maybe others telling you that you were good with money right and you see you had that identity but then um but then the actions maybe in certain realms were not matching that so I'm curious like what do you say about yourself now do you say good with money or do you use a different term because that that term didn't work for you in the past

But that didn't necessarily, you know, there's a technical answer to that, I guess.

So my first clue that I wasn't as good with money as I thought was when I was in my early 20s, I was dating a guy who was very financially focused.

So I remember him saying, I said something about like, I figure I'm always going to have a car payment because he was looking for a car and I had a leased vehicle.

And he was like, who told you that? And I'm like, that's just the life I grew up in.

And to this day, my parents are pensioners like we I was raised on a paycheck mindset and most working Americans have that.

And until you really understand, I mean, we all heard I learned I mean, I went to college for accounting like I knew everything.

So that's very interesting about what you said with your identity work, just to loop back to that a little bit, because you grew up telling yourself or maybe others telling you that you were good with money right and you see you had that identity but then um but then the actions maybe in certain realms were not matching that so I'm curious like what do you say about yourself now do you say good with money or do you use a different term because that that term didn't work for you in the past

But that didn't necessarily, you know, there's a technical answer to that, I guess.

So my first clue that I wasn't as good with money as I thought was when I was in my early 20s, I was dating a guy who was very financially focused.

So I remember him saying, I said something about like, I figure I'm always going to have a car payment because he was looking for a car and I had a leased vehicle.

And he was like, who told you that? And I'm like, that's just the life I grew up in.

And to this day, my parents are pensioners like we I was raised on a paycheck mindset and most working Americans have that.

And until you really understand, I mean, we all heard I learned I mean, I went to college for accounting like I knew everything.
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