Marcia BjörnerudGuest
Warren SendersHost
Niloufar NourbakhshGuest
It is for me music that has always drawn me to it, that has the wisdom.

You don't feel it all the time, but in those moments where you feel it, it's so magical and powerful it's like as if time stopped yes and um it's in the process of writing music that the wisdom exists and this is actually something um Philip Roth said in an interview that really stayed with me and he's like once once you stop writing it's like you don't have that wisdom anymore but like as you start writing in that process there is this sort of wisdom and There is something special that's happening there, and I definitely feel really grateful to have that connection and be inspired by it every day.

In this next segment, I shared some other music on long timescales, starting with a clip from my 2021 interview with Dr. Rainer Neugebauer, the curator of the As Slow As Possible John Cage Organ Project in Halberstadt, Germany.
In 1998, there was a conference of new organ music in Trossingen.
And then there was a question, what does it mean as slow as possible by an organ? And then one of the participants knows this empty church where we are in now in Halberstadt.
And this was something like a pig stall and something like a farmhouse, yes.
So first was found the place.
to play this piece very long.
And then, when all the people are in Halberstadt, they all remembered, oh, there was a date, a very important date for music history and also for organ history.
This was the time in 3061 when the so-called Faber organ, a Gothic organ, was completed.
Maybe the first instrument with the keys we know today.
And some people say this is the birth of the whole classical music from then to Schoenberg.
We take the year 2000 as a mirror-ex.
from 3061 to 2639 years and from the new millennium to 20640 there are the 639 years in the future This was our calculation and we started the project in 2000.
In 2001 we started the realization of the piece with working of the bellows, yes.
You need a wind for bellows, even it's something like a break.
For seven months you hear only the wind in the church.
And one year later then came the first three pipes.
We are in 2006, a year where we are very hectic because we are two core changes in one year.
That's what was horrible.
So since 2011, we have two pipes that are in the C and the D-flat.
And the D-flat must work unchanging for 60 years until 2071. like timeless yes it's what we created here we will not longer be here at this point yeah but the music yeah and the sound will be here in 100 years and 200 years and 400 years hopefully i think the cage sounds which are not subject to hierarchy, violence, exploitation and domination, give a preview of a society without these things, without violence, exploitation and domination.

It is for me music that has always drawn me to it, that has the wisdom.

You don't feel it all the time, but in those moments where you feel it, it's so magical and powerful it's like as if time stopped yes and um it's in the process of writing music that the wisdom exists and this is actually something um Philip Roth said in an interview that really stayed with me and he's like once once you stop writing it's like you don't have that wisdom anymore but like as you start writing in that process there is this sort of wisdom and There is something special that's happening there, and I definitely feel really grateful to have that connection and be inspired by it every day.

In this next segment, I shared some other music on long timescales, starting with a clip from my 2021 interview with Dr. Rainer Neugebauer, the curator of the As Slow As Possible John Cage Organ Project in Halberstadt, Germany.
In 1998, there was a conference of new organ music in Trossingen.
And then there was a question, what does it mean as slow as possible by an organ? And then one of the participants knows this empty church where we are in now in Halberstadt.
And this was something like a pig stall and something like a farmhouse, yes.
So first was found the place.
to play this piece very long.
And then, when all the people are in Halberstadt, they all remembered, oh, there was a date, a very important date for music history and also for organ history.
This was the time in 3061 when the so-called Faber organ, a Gothic organ, was completed.
Maybe the first instrument with the keys we know today.
And some people say this is the birth of the whole classical music from then to Schoenberg.
We take the year 2000 as a mirror-ex.
from 3061 to 2639 years and from the new millennium to 20640 there are the 639 years in the future This was our calculation and we started the project in 2000.
In 2001 we started the realization of the piece with working of the bellows, yes.
You need a wind for bellows, even it's something like a break.
For seven months you hear only the wind in the church.
And one year later then came the first three pipes.
We are in 2006, a year where we are very hectic because we are two core changes in one year.
That's what was horrible.
So since 2011, we have two pipes that are in the C and the D-flat.
And the D-flat must work unchanging for 60 years until 2071. like timeless yes it's what we created here we will not longer be here at this point yeah but the music yeah and the sound will be here in 100 years and 200 years and 400 years hopefully i think the cage sounds which are not subject to hierarchy, violence, exploitation and domination, give a preview of a society without these things, without violence, exploitation and domination.
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