THE CULTURE CAPTAIN with J.P. Nerbun (2 of 2)
Oct 29, 2026 · 28 min · 9 segments
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J.P. NerbunGuestJohn MayerHostBilly AllenHost
Oct 29, 2026 · 28 min · 9 segments
J.P. NerbunGuestJohn MayerHostBilly AllenHost
One of them that jumped out at me and one of my favorite topics is, I guess, any athlete is on competing.
And your main character, Lily, she has a discussion with her coaching mentor about competing against versus competing with.
I talk about this in my first book, but just like the origins of the word compete.
You go back to Latin, it actually meant to strive together, fly together for excellence, right? You're almost in some pursuit of something.
And I think, the person I think I love the most talking about this, I've heard a lot of great athletes talk about this, but Courtney Downwater, the ultramarathon runner, she's the best ultramarathon runner arguably in the world, male or female.
men's butts, right? And she won three of the big 100 milers, right? And so here is this female, late 30s, killing it.
It's just like, or about when she focuses on a race, it's just like, I'm just out here to be and do my best.
And I see my opponents as people here to help push me, to help me find my best, right? Like that's such a different way than I'm going to go prove myself that I'm better than them.
Obviously, you got to be better on the day than somebody else to get the trophy.
But if we viewed it just constantly pursuing our best, then I think that that helps you to move away from the scoreboard.
And I think it also helps with the other side that athletes really struggle with.
OK, I think athletes maybe not struggle all the time so much with, OK, I'm going to pursue my best.
One of them that jumped out at me and one of my favorite topics is, I guess, any athlete is on competing.
And your main character, Lily, she has a discussion with her coaching mentor about competing against versus competing with.
I talk about this in my first book, but just like the origins of the word compete.
You go back to Latin, it actually meant to strive together, fly together for excellence, right? You're almost in some pursuit of something.
And I think, the person I think I love the most talking about this, I've heard a lot of great athletes talk about this, but Courtney Downwater, the ultramarathon runner, she's the best ultramarathon runner arguably in the world, male or female.
men's butts, right? And she won three of the big 100 milers, right? And so here is this female, late 30s, killing it.
It's just like, or about when she focuses on a race, it's just like, I'm just out here to be and do my best.
And I see my opponents as people here to help push me, to help me find my best, right? Like that's such a different way than I'm going to go prove myself that I'm better than them.
Obviously, you got to be better on the day than somebody else to get the trophy.
But if we viewed it just constantly pursuing our best, then I think that that helps you to move away from the scoreboard.
And I think it also helps with the other side that athletes really struggle with.
OK, I think athletes maybe not struggle all the time so much with, OK, I'm going to pursue my best.
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