Anson Dorrance

So it seems like, oh, these are two things that are working in opposites, JP.

It's built off of some of the stuff that Anson Dorrance had done for years, but Pete Carroll has brought it to the Seahawks when he was there.

But I'm a big fan of a lot of sports, and we've got an old spreadsheet and stuff like that that coaches use in volleyball and basketball and soccer and all that.

And so we actually chart winners and losers, but then it's about shaping their mindset around it.

I can't wait to get into that with you.

As I say, we had Anson Dorrance on the podcast earlier on in the series.

What a wonderful episode that was.

If you haven't heard that, definitely go back to the catalogue and listen to that one.

Exactly.

You know, when you talk about that award, the thought that immediately went through my mind is, I had interviewed on this podcast, you may be familiar with Anson Dorrance, who was the UNC soccer coach for many, many years when they won 20 national championships or so.

And the highest, the most prestigious award you can win on the University of North Carolina women's soccer team is the award they give that the players vote on for which player best represents the core values that they talk about on their team.

That's the most prestigious thing.

And it's rewarding, that type of thing.

But I really leaned into competitive cauldron in a way that Anson Dorrance does, which is I just started to say, hey, we're going to track winners and losers.

And we're gonna have a win loss percentage and one on ones and shooting and three on threes and small side of games and five on fives.

And then over that the years, My wife, who's very, very good at spreadsheets from her background in finance, was able to design a spreadsheet where we created weighted categories, right? So we would weight the categories, you know, so they meant more.

That's the optimal learning environment.

So It helped to create a better learning environment.

So Anson Dorrance has used this.

Pete Carroll has done this.

This is something that I stole, just like everything else that gets stolen from other people.

But a long time ago, I was reading and learning about Anson Dorrance, who is a perennial.

Yeah, so good that you know his name.

So he's a perennial championship level coach.

That Carla story is pretty cool.

Just a couple weeks ago, I finished Anson Dorrance's, who was, of course, her coach in North Carolina.

I finished his book, Vision of a Champion.

I'd never read into anything he'd done, but I'd

And they have a competitive cauldron in the Seattle Seahawks practices.

Carroll took this from Anson Dorrance.

Anson Dorrance took it from Dean Smith, right? But everything is competitive in practice.

And recently I saw that the new UCLA football coach, he did something very similar from an American football standpoint.

So Very, very cool.

But then Steve Kerr, who has this value of joy, like if you go to their practices, there's music blaring and they do probably some games, some drills that some people say, well, that's not making them better basketball players, but they're having fun and they're laughing and they're experiencing joy.

There's a really, you know, Anson Dorrance, who one of his values is around, you know, competition as well.

And he's been running this competitive cauldron for years.

She wanted to go play for the national team at some point when she was a teenager, and at the time, we were looking at North Carolina 'cause that's where Mia Hamm went to school.

She was with Anson Dorrance, who was like a legendary coach there for the women's team.

And then he went on to coach the national...

Anyway, um, so I know a little bit about that area.

You have to learn to play with that ball.

You have to be better with it, more proficient." That's what Anson Dorrance...

Dude, Anson Dorrance said that about that Olivia Thomas.

He said, "I hope she lives in your facility, 'cause she could be the best player in the country." That girl that was successful, had a great youth career, went to North Carolina, won a national championship, scored the game-winning goal in the national championship, but it came on a free kick, not in the run of play where she could take a player on and beat them, receive a ball on a half turn in the box and hit it balanced.

Like, and now she got To the pro league and just now is starting to see a little bit of time, a little bit of success, but before then wasn't playing at all, wasn't getting in.