Jul 14, 2026 · 44 min · 10 segments
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Isabelle Brenton, former Chief Communications Officer at IPG Mediabrands and recipient of the 2026 Working Mother of the Year award from She Runs…
Isabelle BretonGuestKevin RiceHostWell, you stepped into one of your most senior roles of your career right around the same time that you became a mom.
So what was that like for you as your identity was shifting or just these two significant roles of your life started to converge?

As motivated as I was to kind of keep climbing the ladder earlier in my career, I never thought that I would be in the top seat of a communications function.

I always kind of thought of myself as a number two, and for whatever reason, it probably was self-esteem related to your point.

But all of a sudden, I was really growing in my career, and my husband and I were having a really intentional, almost analytical conversation about do we want children.

Neither of us were the p- kind of people that were born being like, "I'm on this planet to be a mother." I didn't have that instinct, which I later learned is common.

I always thought that there was all of a sudden supposed to be this moment where I was all of a sudden desperate to have children, and my husband was in a similar situation, and we kind of had to sit down and say, "What do we want our life to look like? Should we have children?" Having those conversations.

And then I got pregnant, and it was all of a sudden these things were happening at the same time.

It was like I'm ascending at my-- in my career, and I'm having my first child, and I really had to grapple with how those identities work together and how they were shaping each other and myself, and it was challenging.

I believe I was the first person to be pregnant in my office, and I had friends that were at larger corporations that were saying, "Well, you need the mother's room, and you need these resources, and do you know about these various benefits?" And I was like, "Oh, I have no idea." And, uh, the company I worked for at the time was, was independent and private, and they were very supportive, and I said, "Can we have a mother's room set up?" And they were, "Of course, we're gonna convert this conference room." They were so supportive.

But I really felt this pressure to kind of keep ascending, become a mother, model kind of what motherhood looks like in my office, and figure out how to continue operating in a certain level while stepping into this new role in my personal life.

So I felt a lot of pressure, and I think it took me a while to kind of find my path because I think that pressure came out in ways that right now I feel kind of ashamed about, not from a workplace perspective, but from the fact that I was sort of hiding my, my identity as a parent and, and kind of pushing that down-

... minimizing it in order to show up as this person whose life has not changed at all at work, which is kind of crazy to say out loud because we all know how much parenting changes our life.

So yeah, it was, it was a challenging time, um, I would say the first couple of years.
I love that you had that very direct vision conversation with your husband 'cause I think a lot, at least people that I've talked to in my social circles, they choose partners based on, oh, we have really strong chemistry, and then avoid the tough conversation of, do we wanna have kids? Where do we wanna live? How are we gonna handle difficult financial situations that might arise in our life? What was that conversation like when you were discussing should we have kids or not? Were you looking at pros and cons? Was it more of an emotional decision, or was it more of a logical conversation?

It felt very logical, which probably sounds very cold, but again, I didn't feel this burning to become a mother.

And I think it was sort of like, okay, if we didn't have kids, what would our life look like? Like, when we're in our 60s or 70s, how would we feel about it then? And I think that we kind of arrived on the fact that we would love to have a family of our own.

We were living in New York City at the time, so we were like, "Okay, let's see how this goes living-" With children in the city, which many of my friends still do, and it's a great experience.

It's just making a decision of where will we live, to your point of what will this life look like? And it was funny because we decided we did wanna have children.
Well, you stepped into one of your most senior roles of your career right around the same time that you became a mom.
So what was that like for you as your identity was shifting or just these two significant roles of your life started to converge?

As motivated as I was to kind of keep climbing the ladder earlier in my career, I never thought that I would be in the top seat of a communications function.

I always kind of thought of myself as a number two, and for whatever reason, it probably was self-esteem related to your point.

But all of a sudden, I was really growing in my career, and my husband and I were having a really intentional, almost analytical conversation about do we want children.

Neither of us were the p- kind of people that were born being like, "I'm on this planet to be a mother." I didn't have that instinct, which I later learned is common.

I always thought that there was all of a sudden supposed to be this moment where I was all of a sudden desperate to have children, and my husband was in a similar situation, and we kind of had to sit down and say, "What do we want our life to look like? Should we have children?" Having those conversations.

And then I got pregnant, and it was all of a sudden these things were happening at the same time.

It was like I'm ascending at my-- in my career, and I'm having my first child, and I really had to grapple with how those identities work together and how they were shaping each other and myself, and it was challenging.

I believe I was the first person to be pregnant in my office, and I had friends that were at larger corporations that were saying, "Well, you need the mother's room, and you need these resources, and do you know about these various benefits?" And I was like, "Oh, I have no idea." And, uh, the company I worked for at the time was, was independent and private, and they were very supportive, and I said, "Can we have a mother's room set up?" And they were, "Of course, we're gonna convert this conference room." They were so supportive.

But I really felt this pressure to kind of keep ascending, become a mother, model kind of what motherhood looks like in my office, and figure out how to continue operating in a certain level while stepping into this new role in my personal life.

So I felt a lot of pressure, and I think it took me a while to kind of find my path because I think that pressure came out in ways that right now I feel kind of ashamed about, not from a workplace perspective, but from the fact that I was sort of hiding my, my identity as a parent and, and kind of pushing that down-

... minimizing it in order to show up as this person whose life has not changed at all at work, which is kind of crazy to say out loud because we all know how much parenting changes our life.

So yeah, it was, it was a challenging time, um, I would say the first couple of years.
I love that you had that very direct vision conversation with your husband 'cause I think a lot, at least people that I've talked to in my social circles, they choose partners based on, oh, we have really strong chemistry, and then avoid the tough conversation of, do we wanna have kids? Where do we wanna live? How are we gonna handle difficult financial situations that might arise in our life? What was that conversation like when you were discussing should we have kids or not? Were you looking at pros and cons? Was it more of an emotional decision, or was it more of a logical conversation?

It felt very logical, which probably sounds very cold, but again, I didn't feel this burning to become a mother.

And I think it was sort of like, okay, if we didn't have kids, what would our life look like? Like, when we're in our 60s or 70s, how would we feel about it then? And I think that we kind of arrived on the fact that we would love to have a family of our own.

We were living in New York City at the time, so we were like, "Okay, let's see how this goes living-" With children in the city, which many of my friends still do, and it's a great experience.

It's just making a decision of where will we live, to your point of what will this life look like? And it was funny because we decided we did wanna have children.
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