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CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet

CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet

Care & Counsel Are Pastoral & at Home in the Church

Aug 17, 2026 · 44 min · 12 segments

What makes the local church the natural home for biblical counseling? In part 6 of our 7-part series on CCEF's distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Ed Welch to discuss why…

What makes the local church the natural home for biblical counseling? In part 6 of our 7-part series on CCEF's distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Ed Welch to discuss why care and counsel are pastoral and at home in the church. Together they explore the beauty of face-to-face ministry—the calling of every Christian, and the unique role of parachurch organizations in serving the local church. Along the way, they reflect on stories of faithful ministry, the ordinary conversations God uses to bring change, and the vision of a church where every member participates in caring for one another. Mentioned in this episode: \- Explore CCEF books at ccef.org/book \- Learn more about our beliefs and distinctives at ccef.org/about \- Instruments in the Redeemer's Hands | Book by Paul David Tripp \- Side by Side | Book by Ed Welch

What makes the local church the natural home for biblical counseling? In part 6 of our 7-part series on CCEF's distinctives, Gunner Gundersen is joined by Jonathan Holmes and Ed Welch to discuss why…

Top entities: God×19 Paul David Tripp×3 Edward T. Welch×22 Bible×17 Jesus×5

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Speakers: Ed WelchGuestGunner GundersenHostJonathan HolmesGuest

Show signals: SuitabilitySafeBiasNot politicalAudience≈32k followers

CCEF's Seven Distinctives4:24 – 5:17

Gunner GundersenHost

4:24

Jonathan, would you like to kick us off on reading the distinctives?

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:27

Yes, I'd love to.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:29

Distinctive number one, the personal God gets personal with us.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:33

Number two,

Gunner GundersenHost

4:34

scripture comes from the mouth of God.

4:37

3.

4:38

We are embodied souls shaped by a world of influences.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:43

4.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:44

Our hearts are active.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:46

5.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:47

Help and change follow a path, but not a script.

4:51

6.

4:52

Care and counsel are pastoral and at home in the church.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:57

7.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:58

Biblical counseling engages with the voices around us.

Gunner GundersenHost

5:01

So that's a kind of full summary picture of those seven distinctives that we hold to and seek to promote here at CCEF.

Gunner GundersenHost

5:10

And if you'd like to read the descriptions for each of those, those are at ccef.org slash about.

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CCEF's Seven Distinctives4:24 – 5:17

Gunner GundersenHost

4:24

Jonathan, would you like to kick us off on reading the distinctives?

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:27

Yes, I'd love to.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:29

Distinctive number one, the personal God gets personal with us.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:33

Number two,

Gunner GundersenHost

4:34

scripture comes from the mouth of God.

4:37

3.

4:38

We are embodied souls shaped by a world of influences.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:43

4.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:44

Our hearts are active.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:46

5.

Gunner GundersenHost

4:47

Help and change follow a path, but not a script.

4:51

6.

4:52

Care and counsel are pastoral and at home in the church.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:57

7.

J

Jonathan HolmesGuest

4:58

Biblical counseling engages with the voices around us.

Gunner GundersenHost

5:01

So that's a kind of full summary picture of those seven distinctives that we hold to and seek to promote here at CCEF.

Gunner GundersenHost

5:10

And if you'd like to read the descriptions for each of those, those are at ccef.org slash about.

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