Aug 5, 2026 · 53 min · 11 segments
What does entrepreneurship actually look like when the traditional employment system has never really worked for you? In this episode, Kevin Cameron sits down with Haley Moss, autistic attorney…
Haley MossGuest
Kevin CameronHost
I mean, it's, it's like, here's your backpack, and, uh, there should be a parachute there.

Um, and so we were kinda covering, like, how do you, how do you get started? Both of us having started companies in the past, like, how do you get started, and what are the things that you run into that you just don't know about, you're not prepared? Um, so Haley, you had a couple that you had hit on before in terms of, like, okay, I'm gonna start a company.

And I think a lot of us, especially if you're neurodivergent, you might not have had those same tools and experiences-

You might not have even gotten through higher education or went through college or post-secondary because of the different barriers to access and ableism to even get through that in the first place.

There are so many ways that you end up in entrepreneurship, and it's not even as simple as, oh, I'm gonna start a company.

A lot of the folks that I've met throughout my life, and this is the funny thing, is that a lot of support is like, "We wanna help the people starting a company and developing a product." I'm like, well, a lot of the neurodivergent entrepreneurs that I know are Etsy sellers.

I mean, it's, it's like, here's your backpack, and, uh, there should be a parachute there.

Um, and so we were kinda covering, like, how do you, how do you get started? Both of us having started companies in the past, like, how do you get started, and what are the things that you run into that you just don't know about, you're not prepared? Um, so Haley, you had a couple that you had hit on before in terms of, like, okay, I'm gonna start a company.

And I think a lot of us, especially if you're neurodivergent, you might not have had those same tools and experiences-

You might not have even gotten through higher education or went through college or post-secondary because of the different barriers to access and ableism to even get through that in the first place.

There are so many ways that you end up in entrepreneurship, and it's not even as simple as, oh, I'm gonna start a company.

A lot of the folks that I've met throughout my life, and this is the funny thing, is that a lot of support is like, "We wanna help the people starting a company and developing a product." I'm like, well, a lot of the neurodivergent entrepreneurs that I know are Etsy sellers.
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