Jun 22, 2026 · 57 min · 12 segments
Some business owners seem to always know the right person. The person with the answer, the intro, the opportunity, the client, or the advice you didn’t even know you needed. That’s what happens when…
Daniel HakimGuestJess WhatmanHost
Kirsten ScottGuest
The most powerful thing you can do to find new business is to be part of a business community because you're connecting directly owner to owner to the people that are making the decisions.

You're building trust amongst these people so when they need your product or service they know who to come to.

It's the most underutilized lead source of small business and big businesses can't do it.

and having a network? networking is very transactional having a network is relational it's not always about like giving each other work and everything else it could be like bringing that person last minute with accounting advice or whatever that might be
often hear people say that joining your networking community or having to speak to people and meet people is quite scary or how do you recommend someone just goes and starts conversation with someone daniel hakim ceo of cub and co-founder of boa and kirsten scott co-founder of boa welcome to built to lead Hey, thanks
For someone who doesn't know, can you explain what Cub and BoA both are and how hands-on you are both in the businesses?
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The most powerful thing you can do to find new business is to be part of a business community because you're connecting directly owner to owner to the people that are making the decisions.

You're building trust amongst these people so when they need your product or service they know who to come to.

It's the most underutilized lead source of small business and big businesses can't do it.

and having a network? networking is very transactional having a network is relational it's not always about like giving each other work and everything else it could be like bringing that person last minute with accounting advice or whatever that might be
often hear people say that joining your networking community or having to speak to people and meet people is quite scary or how do you recommend someone just goes and starts conversation with someone daniel hakim ceo of cub and co-founder of boa and kirsten scott co-founder of boa welcome to built to lead Hey, thanks
For someone who doesn't know, can you explain what Cub and BoA both are and how hands-on you are both in the businesses?