Aug 17, 2026 · 54 min · 12 segments
Is your business bogged down by bloated teams and outdated marketing playbooks? In this episode, I sit down with Finder co-founder Jeremy Cabral to unpack the exact strategies he used to help scale…
Jeremy CabralGuestJess WhatmanHost
The companies that are doing mass layoffs right now are using AI as an excuse.

I think there's a 12 to 18 month window right now for companies that invest in directionally moving towards being AI native, really having such an edge over other companies that it will be hard to keep up with them.

How do you build the challenger to your own business? Because I think that's what it needs to stay ahead.
Now you help founders scale their startups as a growth advisor and have founded a few AI businesses, which I'm excited to talk to you about.
I want to start back today at Finder and then talk about what founders need to do to scale their business to $100 million.
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The companies that are doing mass layoffs right now are using AI as an excuse.

I think there's a 12 to 18 month window right now for companies that invest in directionally moving towards being AI native, really having such an edge over other companies that it will be hard to keep up with them.

How do you build the challenger to your own business? Because I think that's what it needs to stay ahead.
Now you help founders scale their startups as a growth advisor and have founded a few AI businesses, which I'm excited to talk to you about.
I want to start back today at Finder and then talk about what founders need to do to scale their business to $100 million.