Oct 12, 2026 · 28 min · 13 segments
What does success look like beyond a paycheck? In this episode of Beyond the Resume, hosts Lisa Flicker and Chris Papa welcome Bob Sessa to explore career development, institutional real estate…
Lisa FlickerHostChris PapaHostWell, I, I, I, I've been very fortunate that the, the, the competitive swimming, I didn't realize it as I was in kind of in the, in that period of my life.
You can tell the difference that he's an honest man because nobody who's 5'11" doesn't say six feet, so.
Work ethic, discipline, prioritizing my time, especially when I was in college 'cause it was extremely demanding and, and you had to realize, okay, how am I gonna spend the limited amount of time I have on what am I gonna study and do and whatnot.
Teamwork, how to win, how to lose, that resilience because life doesn't always go your way.
And so it gave me a lot of those experiences which translated into the professional field.
And also, I saw different coaching styles that I, you know, leaned on as, uh, when I started managing people that I...
You know, there, you know, people, there's kind of, uh, very simply, you can rule by fear or you can rule by kind of love or openness.
But the other thing was is at Fordham, the critical thinking and not just taking what somebody tells you, but digging in and doing your own analysis, coming up with your own conclusions, and that's with everything, you know, in life.
And I told my kids, I was like, "Listen, you know, somebody's gonna tell you this is a great movie, but you have to go and watch it yourself or a great book or that person is great or that person isn't great.
You have to form your own opinion 'cause people come with their biases and whatnot." And so it's that having that critical thinking, open mind, and not just taking what has been done as like, "Oh, okay, that's what we should be doing." And so that, that, that helped me a lot, especially as I was building out the, the, the real estate program because you could look and see like, I'm always like, "Why are people still doing this or doing that?" And I would just question and look underneath and try to get to the data.
Well, I, I, I, I've been very fortunate that the, the, the competitive swimming, I didn't realize it as I was in kind of in the, in that period of my life.
You can tell the difference that he's an honest man because nobody who's 5'11" doesn't say six feet, so.
Work ethic, discipline, prioritizing my time, especially when I was in college 'cause it was extremely demanding and, and you had to realize, okay, how am I gonna spend the limited amount of time I have on what am I gonna study and do and whatnot.
Teamwork, how to win, how to lose, that resilience because life doesn't always go your way.
And so it gave me a lot of those experiences which translated into the professional field.
And also, I saw different coaching styles that I, you know, leaned on as, uh, when I started managing people that I...
You know, there, you know, people, there's kind of, uh, very simply, you can rule by fear or you can rule by kind of love or openness.
But the other thing was is at Fordham, the critical thinking and not just taking what somebody tells you, but digging in and doing your own analysis, coming up with your own conclusions, and that's with everything, you know, in life.
And I told my kids, I was like, "Listen, you know, somebody's gonna tell you this is a great movie, but you have to go and watch it yourself or a great book or that person is great or that person isn't great.
You have to form your own opinion 'cause people come with their biases and whatnot." And so it's that having that critical thinking, open mind, and not just taking what has been done as like, "Oh, okay, that's what we should be doing." And so that, that, that helped me a lot, especially as I was building out the, the, the real estate program because you could look and see like, I'm always like, "Why are people still doing this or doing that?" And I would just question and look underneath and try to get to the data.
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