Voter turnout is everything (with Seth McKee)

So the state of Oklahoma is not a Southern state.

We are Heartland Midwest.

Do we act more like a Southern state than we would maybe a Midwestern state?

I mean, you all have a sense of the geography of Oklahoma.

And looking at the Mazie Drummond Republican gubernatorial runoff, you know, Little Dixie, as some people would call it, right, that southeastern part of the state culturally clearly has the strongest ties to the south.

But, you know, if you were to move back up to the You know, the northwest part of the state's very different.

And of course, geographically, it's so different.

And a lot of, you know, more sort of north central, you're going to get migration from Kansas and plain states.

So I don't know.

We're kind of a crossroads.

We got a nice southern area in the southeast and then a little bit of everything for the rest of the state.

So one of the things that, you know, this is a midterm election and we typically see less voter turnout in the midterms.

Do you see that playing out again? And kind of what will that look like?

Yeah, I mean, comparing a presidential election to a midterm, right, there is no comparison in terms of presidential turnout always going to be higher.

It's been higher since we got away from the first several, you know, presidential and midterms in American history.

But I think this is going to be a pretty solid turnout as far as midterm goes.

um trump mobilizes right he mobilizes because he polarizes and so you have a lot of people who are really going to get out because they're angry with this administration just some fun facts in 2020 as trump is trying to hold on and claims the election is stolen after the fact which is complete hogwash That was the highest turnout in 120 years.

So that was the highest presidential turnout since 1900.

And in Trump's first midterm in 2018, that was the highest midterm turnout in over 100 years as well since 1914.

So expect some pretty robust turnout for a midterm cycle, but it's going to be dominated by people who are mad.

So it's not going to be MAGA that's showing up in high numbers.

Wow.

Well, that's going to be interesting for our state and other, I mean, southern states, which tend to trend redder than more parts of the country, for sure.

You said, you know, voters get out that they're angry, but that leans a little bit towards activists, voters, correct? Yes.

Yeah, we I mean, you know, there's always a baseline of people who are just going to vote.