Oct 15, 2026 · 40 min · 13 segments
Today’s guest is Ren Navarro of B. Diversity. Ren is a culture consultant, drinks expert, and founder of B. Diversity. With more than 20 years of experience in customer service and management and more…
Ren NavarroGuestIan McLeanHostAnd, you know, I think in our conversation, you describe it as created, you know, you created this to shake up what was, and I think still can be, a very male-dominated industry.
What did you want to create through that community of women? And what did you learn about the power of bringing people together? Because I mean, we're still on that journey.

And so it was very back in that, you know, back in those days, there weren't a lot of women in beer.

And so there weren't a lot of spaces to bring women in where you could feel safe, you know, just trying a bunch of beers and being like, I don't like this one or, you know, this one I really like.

Like, where am I leaving my glass? And so the first, you know, I was there for the first few years and it was really about creating safer spaces to allow women folks to come in into a space where we're not normally represented.

But the first time you as a woman in a space leave your drink unattended, come back and your drink is still there, nothing's happened to it is mind blowing.

Two of the original founders are still there and they're still creating these spaces and they're still doing these things, which tells you it's still needed.


And theirs was about education, because, again, this idea of beer not being for women, despite being historically created by women, you know, and it's just like, well, we got to carve out our own space.
And, you know, I think in our conversation, you describe it as created, you know, you created this to shake up what was, and I think still can be, a very male-dominated industry.
What did you want to create through that community of women? And what did you learn about the power of bringing people together? Because I mean, we're still on that journey.

And so it was very back in that, you know, back in those days, there weren't a lot of women in beer.

And so there weren't a lot of spaces to bring women in where you could feel safe, you know, just trying a bunch of beers and being like, I don't like this one or, you know, this one I really like.

Like, where am I leaving my glass? And so the first, you know, I was there for the first few years and it was really about creating safer spaces to allow women folks to come in into a space where we're not normally represented.

But the first time you as a woman in a space leave your drink unattended, come back and your drink is still there, nothing's happened to it is mind blowing.

Two of the original founders are still there and they're still creating these spaces and they're still doing these things, which tells you it's still needed.


And theirs was about education, because, again, this idea of beer not being for women, despite being historically created by women, you know, and it's just like, well, we got to carve out our own space.
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