Be Well with Dr. Michelle Greenwell
Jul 20, 2026 · 58 min · 16 segments
What are you taking in each day—and are you giving yourself the nourishment you truly need? In Episode 3 of Emotions & Healing, Dr. Michelle Greenwell welcomes Kate Montgomery, HHP, ND, and Denise…
Michelle GreenwellHost
Denise CambiottiGuest
Kate MontgomeryGuestso as that settles into the belly and you notice how your breath changes usually there's a nice big sigh you know that you have a sense that you're being supported And in this context of our conversation today, we are supporting you and providing you with some new insights into how you can look at the stomach and the spleen.
So I want to give you a little bit of background on some ideas that you might not have thought about.
And they need to be conversing with each other and they also need to be working together.
The stomach doing the digestion, transformation, and initiating nourishment works with the spleen, which is assimilating, distributing, and building resilience and immunity.
So emotionally, these systems can help us decide what are you going to take in? What do you want to keep? What do you want to let go of? But when the earth is overwhelmed, emotions become repetitive, critical, and comparative.
We all know about those little words in our head that keep coming around or how you're critiquing what somebody has told you they've been doing and you've critiquing with what would you have done.
When earth is supported, we move away from that criticizing piece and we move more into empathy where we can care with others rather than just for them and not at the cost of ourselves.
So when there's an imbalance, we're giving away too much of ourselves to help others and But we find a balance when this is in balance.
I want to bring a little bit of perspective to some of the muscles that are in relationship with these organ systems.
Now, this comes from the work of Dr. George Goodheart back in the 1960s and then brought forward by Dr. John Thee.
who instigated the Touch for Health system, as well as many others who came along as well, George Goodheart was able to bring together the element with the meridians to the organ systems and then the muscles that linked up to those systems.
And I want to bring attention to the way that we're going to look at emotions today and how Kate and Denise are going to talk about their work that they do and their experience with these muscles and how the body functions and our emotions.
So I'm going to draw attention to pectoralis major clavicular, which is part of the stomach meridian.
And this one is a muscle on the front of the chest that many of us are familiar with.
Sometimes they're really tight if we spend a lot of time at the computer or driving the car.
And that is stomach meridian, but we go to spleen, and that is latissimus dorsi, a beautiful muscle, one of my favorites that comes up the back, comes underneath the shoulder blades, but it has influence out to underneath the arm, and that influences all the way to the end of the pinky finger.
And then it also is influenced down into the cartilage in the lower part of the spine and into the sacrum.
And there's a link there that takes all the way across the hip and down into the knee.
So we have these two muscles that can interact with each other, which help stomach and spleen to talk to each other.
And when they do, they're talking about clarity, visionary goals, and they're talking about how we can come from our higher self, spirituality, and bring that down into our everyday life.
so as that settles into the belly and you notice how your breath changes usually there's a nice big sigh you know that you have a sense that you're being supported And in this context of our conversation today, we are supporting you and providing you with some new insights into how you can look at the stomach and the spleen.
So I want to give you a little bit of background on some ideas that you might not have thought about.
And they need to be conversing with each other and they also need to be working together.
The stomach doing the digestion, transformation, and initiating nourishment works with the spleen, which is assimilating, distributing, and building resilience and immunity.
So emotionally, these systems can help us decide what are you going to take in? What do you want to keep? What do you want to let go of? But when the earth is overwhelmed, emotions become repetitive, critical, and comparative.
We all know about those little words in our head that keep coming around or how you're critiquing what somebody has told you they've been doing and you've critiquing with what would you have done.
When earth is supported, we move away from that criticizing piece and we move more into empathy where we can care with others rather than just for them and not at the cost of ourselves.
So when there's an imbalance, we're giving away too much of ourselves to help others and But we find a balance when this is in balance.
I want to bring a little bit of perspective to some of the muscles that are in relationship with these organ systems.
Now, this comes from the work of Dr. George Goodheart back in the 1960s and then brought forward by Dr. John Thee.
who instigated the Touch for Health system, as well as many others who came along as well, George Goodheart was able to bring together the element with the meridians to the organ systems and then the muscles that linked up to those systems.
And I want to bring attention to the way that we're going to look at emotions today and how Kate and Denise are going to talk about their work that they do and their experience with these muscles and how the body functions and our emotions.
So I'm going to draw attention to pectoralis major clavicular, which is part of the stomach meridian.
And this one is a muscle on the front of the chest that many of us are familiar with.
Sometimes they're really tight if we spend a lot of time at the computer or driving the car.
And that is stomach meridian, but we go to spleen, and that is latissimus dorsi, a beautiful muscle, one of my favorites that comes up the back, comes underneath the shoulder blades, but it has influence out to underneath the arm, and that influences all the way to the end of the pinky finger.
And then it also is influenced down into the cartilage in the lower part of the spine and into the sacrum.
And there's a link there that takes all the way across the hip and down into the knee.
So we have these two muscles that can interact with each other, which help stomach and spleen to talk to each other.
And when they do, they're talking about clarity, visionary goals, and they're talking about how we can come from our higher self, spirituality, and bring that down into our everyday life.
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