Bayesian Musings: Conversations in Care, Training, and Changing Perspectives
Jun 21, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 10 segments
**GUEST** - Dr Jennifer (Vascular Surgeon, Australia) **HOST** - Dr. Vishnu Kurup (ICU Trainee, Australia) **ABOUT** - Jennifer’s journey runs from nutrition and health engineering to medicine, she…
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I guess it's more sort of broad but more narrow at the same time in that I guess in Australia you start off, you get three years of being an intern resident to figure out what specialty you want to do.

There's more sort of a slower process into getting to that whereas it sounds like you're thrown in the deep end of surgery quite early on.
Yeah, yeah.
It is scary, especially the first time you have that knife in your hand and you're like, oh, is this what I signed up for? Definitely.
And I guess with

your background you did some surgical things with animal models but if you did that translational model that would be quite the shift, wouldn't it?
Definitely.
And the thing is, as an intern or unaccredited reg, different than I experience it in the unit that I work in right now, is that you don't really get the opportunity to go to theater to do a lot.
So if I see the unaccredited registrars and my first year reg right now doing things like, wow, that's cool, they're quite skilled already when they start their training.
Right.
I didn't have that.
We have kind of outpatient clinic theaters in which you do like minor procedures like ingrown toenails, venous pathology, lipomas, those kind of things on the local.
So you're doing that as an unaccredited reg.
Other than that, not that much.
So the first time that you actually do something is when you're already on the program.
Which is different, really
Yeah.

And so for the people that aren't surgically inclined... ...do they go straight out of med school into medicine?
Yeah, yeah.
So they apply for either GenMed or ENT or whatever they want to do.
Most of the time they also do like that period... ...that I described as intern slash unaccredited reg...
And for instance, if you want to become a plastic surgeon, there's a different program for that, you would most of the time first do general surgery, but if you want to do ICU, most people first do a gen-med.
So there are some general things that people like in gen-search and in gen-med.

I guess it's more sort of broad but more narrow at the same time in that I guess in Australia you start off, you get three years of being an intern resident to figure out what specialty you want to do.

There's more sort of a slower process into getting to that whereas it sounds like you're thrown in the deep end of surgery quite early on.
Yeah, yeah.
It is scary, especially the first time you have that knife in your hand and you're like, oh, is this what I signed up for? Definitely.
And I guess with

your background you did some surgical things with animal models but if you did that translational model that would be quite the shift, wouldn't it?
Definitely.
And the thing is, as an intern or unaccredited reg, different than I experience it in the unit that I work in right now, is that you don't really get the opportunity to go to theater to do a lot.
So if I see the unaccredited registrars and my first year reg right now doing things like, wow, that's cool, they're quite skilled already when they start their training.
Right.
I didn't have that.
We have kind of outpatient clinic theaters in which you do like minor procedures like ingrown toenails, venous pathology, lipomas, those kind of things on the local.
So you're doing that as an unaccredited reg.
Other than that, not that much.
So the first time that you actually do something is when you're already on the program.
Which is different, really
Yeah.

And so for the people that aren't surgically inclined... ...do they go straight out of med school into medicine?
Yeah, yeah.
So they apply for either GenMed or ENT or whatever they want to do.
Most of the time they also do like that period... ...that I described as intern slash unaccredited reg...
And for instance, if you want to become a plastic surgeon, there's a different program for that, you would most of the time first do general surgery, but if you want to do ICU, most people first do a gen-med.
So there are some general things that people like in gen-search and in gen-med.
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