Sep 15, 2026 · 52 min · 17 segments
Four hundred episodes. Nearly ten years. And a world that looks very different from the one in which BaseCamp Live began. For this milestone episode, Davies Owens steps to the other side of the…
Davies OwensGuest
Hannah BrusvenHost
So how do you feel that the audience has changed over the last 10 years? And, um, what, what's been the biggest transformation, um, from that little idea of gardening in Paris-

And, you know, we're in a world where, uh, most people probably, not always in a good way, are, always have something on.

I mean, whether you're, you know, I, you know, folks can get a Bluetooth speaker for the shower.

And so I think that that's become more normative, and I think people are looking for things they can listen to while they're doing something else.

It's like, oh, back in the day, "Oh, radio, radio will be dead because television's here." And I'm like, "I don't think so.

You may wanna go watch a video version of a podcast, and maybe we'll get to video, but, um, audio gives you that convenience of being able to listen anywhere, anytime." And so I think that's changed.

People are much more familiar, and they're looking for things they can listen to while on the go, which is part of where Zipcast came from as well.

But I think culturally, for sure there's been just seismic shifts in the last decade in terms of, I know Keith McCurdy and I talk all the time about just the default setting for, unfortunately for so many adults and parents in particular right now, is just one of kind of a low, low-grade fever of stress and fear all the time.

There's that sense of some, maybe COVID really launched everybody over the edge, but that worry that am I, am I doing this parenting thing right? Am I gonna mess my kids up? Uh, FOMO.

Oh, the kid gave, the neighbor gave their kid a smartphone in their third grade.

It's just a constantly am I messing myself up? Am I messing my child up? I don't remember that 10 years ago.

So how do you feel that the audience has changed over the last 10 years? And, um, what, what's been the biggest transformation, um, from that little idea of gardening in Paris-

And, you know, we're in a world where, uh, most people probably, not always in a good way, are, always have something on.

I mean, whether you're, you know, I, you know, folks can get a Bluetooth speaker for the shower.

And so I think that that's become more normative, and I think people are looking for things they can listen to while they're doing something else.

It's like, oh, back in the day, "Oh, radio, radio will be dead because television's here." And I'm like, "I don't think so.

You may wanna go watch a video version of a podcast, and maybe we'll get to video, but, um, audio gives you that convenience of being able to listen anywhere, anytime." And so I think that's changed.

People are much more familiar, and they're looking for things they can listen to while on the go, which is part of where Zipcast came from as well.

But I think culturally, for sure there's been just seismic shifts in the last decade in terms of, I know Keith McCurdy and I talk all the time about just the default setting for, unfortunately for so many adults and parents in particular right now, is just one of kind of a low, low-grade fever of stress and fear all the time.

There's that sense of some, maybe COVID really launched everybody over the edge, but that worry that am I, am I doing this parenting thing right? Am I gonna mess my kids up? Uh, FOMO.

Oh, the kid gave, the neighbor gave their kid a smartphone in their third grade.

It's just a constantly am I messing myself up? Am I messing my child up? I don't remember that 10 years ago.
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