Back to... Catwoman (2004)

Okay, let's dive into the sordid history of this movie.

So speaking of Batman Returns, we'll start in 1993, the year after that came out.

And Batman Returns, I mean, obviously we were, you were too young to watch it back then and I was not alive yet.

But that was kind of a weird, it's almost too dark for most audiences back then.

That's why they, you know, rebooted it into Batman Forever with the neon everywhere.

I mean, it was a Batman Returns was a hit.

But I mean, back when this is, you know, superheroes were not a sure thing back then.

But it may less than the first Batman movie.

And, you know, DC or Warner Brothers, I guess, was kind of like, you know, that's why they ended up completely retooling it.

But but before they did that, before they eventually changed ship entirely for the tone, they did announce the spinoff of Catwoman off of Batman Returns.

So initially, this movie would have been a not only a Michelle Pfeiffer joint playing the same character, but directed by Tim Burton again, and the same writer as Batman Returns, Daniel Waters coming back.

So it would have been the same creative team on board.

Would you have liked to have seen that the like the the Burtonverse live on in that way?

Yeah.

Again, like I was a kid when Batman Returns.

I mean, I was born the same year it came out.

But so like I didn't watch it for a long time.

I remember seeing part of it as a kid, like on TV or something.

And I did think it was kind of scary.

Oh, yeah.

You know, like it was it was just like creepy and dark.

And so I had no interest in watching it as a kid.

So I don't think I watched it fully until like middle school or high school, maybe.

And I love it now, but I've always been a fan of Burton's take on Gotham.

So, I mean, yeah, any continuation of that I would have been fine with, I think.