Awaken Your Inner Wisdom with Cissi Williams
Oct 22, 2026 · 41 min · 9 segments
I absolutely love Colette, and have known her for close to twenty years now, so it was such a joy to hear the deeply shamanic journey behind her latest album *My Dark Church.* In this conversation…
Colette Baron-ReidGuest
Cissi WilliamsHost
I am a cancer, right? And so the question is, where is safety, right? Where is safety within? Where is sanctuary? Where are your people? Where is the truth? You know, where do you hold the light in the darkness? You know, where am I reflected in this water? And that was the first line of the song as I looked into your waters and I saw the mirror there.

It's like I was looking at Sedna, at myself, at her in me, right? You know, that I could survive the self-betrayal, the betrayal of the world.

I could be part of, we are all part of a betraying system, right? Right.

The world in this that we live in right now betrays our humanity in many respects.

So that song to me means that there is a place and it is in this my own inner my dark church is what's inside me and it's inside anyone.

What are those things to you? And that's during Mercury retrograde in Cancer, which while we are recording this, we're still in the shadow phase of it, heading, I think today or tomorrow is the full moon.

Which is asking us to what is the courage we have to bring our gifts to the collective in a way that is authentic and truthful.

So I think the whole thing is about, you know, what is your dark church? And a lot of people don't stay still long enough to ask that question of themselves.

it mean to have sanctuary? What does it mean to have security? What is family? You know, like we hold the circle.

I am a cancer, right? And so the question is, where is safety, right? Where is safety within? Where is sanctuary? Where are your people? Where is the truth? You know, where do you hold the light in the darkness? You know, where am I reflected in this water? And that was the first line of the song as I looked into your waters and I saw the mirror there.

It's like I was looking at Sedna, at myself, at her in me, right? You know, that I could survive the self-betrayal, the betrayal of the world.

I could be part of, we are all part of a betraying system, right? Right.

The world in this that we live in right now betrays our humanity in many respects.

So that song to me means that there is a place and it is in this my own inner my dark church is what's inside me and it's inside anyone.

What are those things to you? And that's during Mercury retrograde in Cancer, which while we are recording this, we're still in the shadow phase of it, heading, I think today or tomorrow is the full moon.

Which is asking us to what is the courage we have to bring our gifts to the collective in a way that is authentic and truthful.

So I think the whole thing is about, you know, what is your dark church? And a lot of people don't stay still long enough to ask that question of themselves.

it mean to have sanctuary? What does it mean to have security? What is family? You know, like we hold the circle.
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