Jul 31, 2026 · 2 hr 7 min · 13 segments
In this first of a two-part series we speak with Brian Carmichael, HIV/AIDS and prison activist, who recalls his time incarcerated at California Medical Facility in Vacaville: though HIV-negative…
Brian CarmichaelGuest
William HampsonHost
Yeah, it just so happened that that was right at a point in my life where I was dealing with my own sexuality.


This guy told me, I don't think you're crazy, but if you don't deal with your temper and some childhood trauma, you're just going to keep going back to prison.
you know,

And after a couple of weeks and him hearing about that, I was hooked up with Louse and we were a couple.

and like couples counseling the first time we went in there this will this will tell you the the growth that i made there but the first time when we were talking and and leo said we've been lovers for four months or something and i was like cringed right and i'm like yo stop using that word and he's like what and i go lovers you know and he goes like well what are we you I go, like, we're bros.

You know what I mean? And he goes, like, well, we're bros that suck each other's dick.

But as the months went by, and my friends that knew me from San Quentin and Folsom, they kept asking me, like, why are you hanging around with these gay boys? What's up with that? And referring to him, like a couple of my friends kind of like explain it to the other bikers, right? Oh, no, that's his punk.

And they're like, well, yeah, but when you're in the cell, you don't, you know.

Yeah, it just so happened that that was right at a point in my life where I was dealing with my own sexuality.


This guy told me, I don't think you're crazy, but if you don't deal with your temper and some childhood trauma, you're just going to keep going back to prison.
you know,

And after a couple of weeks and him hearing about that, I was hooked up with Louse and we were a couple.

and like couples counseling the first time we went in there this will this will tell you the the growth that i made there but the first time when we were talking and and leo said we've been lovers for four months or something and i was like cringed right and i'm like yo stop using that word and he's like what and i go lovers you know and he goes like well what are we you I go, like, we're bros.

You know what I mean? And he goes, like, well, we're bros that suck each other's dick.

But as the months went by, and my friends that knew me from San Quentin and Folsom, they kept asking me, like, why are you hanging around with these gay boys? What's up with that? And referring to him, like a couple of my friends kind of like explain it to the other bikers, right? Oh, no, that's his punk.

And they're like, well, yeah, but when you're in the cell, you don't, you know.
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