Dec 17, 2025 · 33 min · 9 segments
In this year-end wrap episode of Women Lead, Nadia Koski sits down with Verena Gründel, Host and Director of Brand & Communications, at DMEXCO, and one of Germany’s Top 100 Most Influential Women, for…
Verena GründelGuest
Nadia KoskiHost
I'm aligning as I'm like nodding as you were saying all these points because our tendency and how we search for things, for products, for solutions, whatever, is going into the LLMs now, whether that's Perplexity or ChatGPT or whatever you use, even Gemini, you know, on a regular basis.

A, we're in charge and we give the information exactly how we want to get the information exactly that we want.

So it's no longer a three or four word keyword search in a Google search, but it's a whole, I was reading something like a minimum of 300 words that people are typing, conversation style to get this.


And with the new agentic protocol that OpenAI just put in a couple months ago, you now have links directly to that product.


But it's also a big challenge to get this conversation, as far as I know, to bring people to that real click to the product, because, of course, the traffic is going down.

I'm aligning as I'm like nodding as you were saying all these points because our tendency and how we search for things, for products, for solutions, whatever, is going into the LLMs now, whether that's Perplexity or ChatGPT or whatever you use, even Gemini, you know, on a regular basis.

A, we're in charge and we give the information exactly how we want to get the information exactly that we want.

So it's no longer a three or four word keyword search in a Google search, but it's a whole, I was reading something like a minimum of 300 words that people are typing, conversation style to get this.


And with the new agentic protocol that OpenAI just put in a couple months ago, you now have links directly to that product.


But it's also a big challenge to get this conversation, as far as I know, to bring people to that real click to the product, because, of course, the traffic is going down.
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