Wine Makers Show: the wine podcast
Aug 16, 2026 · 51 min · 10 segments
What does it take to run the wine programme for eight restaurants inside one of Hong Kong's most storied hotel groups, and how do you earn a guest's trust for a US$600 pour of 1975 Petrus? **We sat…
Cyrus HoGuestAntoineHostWhat are the things that you learned at the beginning of your career? So you talk about Johan Jusland teaching you and being your kind of master at the beginning.
What are the basics that you learned at that point and that surprised you the most or that are the most important for...
Like I'm thinking about someone who is beginning his career as a sommelier and listening to us or watching us.
What should this person have in mind when starting this new job and this journey?

Yeah, I still remember that the first two weeks when I joined as a souvenir, the only thing I can do from Johan is that, okay, you pour in the water, you pour in the water, whole week, whole week.

So you see for the midnight also, we have a lawn, we're also facing the table, but not much table.

But she said, you review for the water, because water is the most basic for the drinks, everything.

if you see the all the gas bottle the water is left and half you will feel it just top up but still very busy and in this pond you have a turn tea table you walk around it's only fucking top up for the water and I think this is one of the part to really touching the base for the surface then after that when we touching more wine you you You know more about wine, then the guests come here is also for the wine.

When you're introducing your babies, when you have the wine, then with introducing the guests, it's just like I'm introducing the baby to my guests.

And when you want to learn more about the story, then this is also feedback from the guests.

then uh always having this passion to introducing the wine because they really love it i really really love to do because when they're happy they're all really good
so you start uh one week only water yes at the end of this week do you like Are you like disappointed? You know, you're like, what is this job? I'm just pouring water.
No, I didn't.

So Johan asking me always to learn from the boat and always asking question is important.

When you're like reopening the wine bottle, and suddenly Johan comes, and he will ask you a question.
What are the things that you learned at the beginning of your career? So you talk about Johan Jusland teaching you and being your kind of master at the beginning.
What are the basics that you learned at that point and that surprised you the most or that are the most important for...
Like I'm thinking about someone who is beginning his career as a sommelier and listening to us or watching us.
What should this person have in mind when starting this new job and this journey?

Yeah, I still remember that the first two weeks when I joined as a souvenir, the only thing I can do from Johan is that, okay, you pour in the water, you pour in the water, whole week, whole week.

So you see for the midnight also, we have a lawn, we're also facing the table, but not much table.

But she said, you review for the water, because water is the most basic for the drinks, everything.

if you see the all the gas bottle the water is left and half you will feel it just top up but still very busy and in this pond you have a turn tea table you walk around it's only fucking top up for the water and I think this is one of the part to really touching the base for the surface then after that when we touching more wine you you You know more about wine, then the guests come here is also for the wine.

When you're introducing your babies, when you have the wine, then with introducing the guests, it's just like I'm introducing the baby to my guests.

And when you want to learn more about the story, then this is also feedback from the guests.

then uh always having this passion to introducing the wine because they really love it i really really love to do because when they're happy they're all really good
so you start uh one week only water yes at the end of this week do you like Are you like disappointed? You know, you're like, what is this job? I'm just pouring water.
No, I didn't.

So Johan asking me always to learn from the boat and always asking question is important.

When you're like reopening the wine bottle, and suddenly Johan comes, and he will ask you a question.
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