We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson
Jul 9, 2026 · 25 min · 9 segments
For Alcohol Awareness Week, Backstreet Boys star AJ McLean, and performer Louie Spence, open up about the impact alcohol addiction has had on their lives and families. In this shorter cut from We…
Louie SpenceGuest
AJ McLeanGuest
Paul C. BrunsonHost
When we finished up [clears throat] the last tour, the DNA tour, we finished it in May of 2023, um, my wife and I were already separated, so we were living separately, so I kinda had a little bit more freedom to kinda go where I want and do what I need for myself, and I decided to take a little trip to Scottsdale, Arizona.
And, uh, I did a IOP, and for those that don't know what that is at home, it's an intensive outpatient program for mental health.
Uh, you know, I was already going into two years sober at the time, um, so my sobriety was good, but I wanted to dig a little deeper and figure out what was at the root of my addiction.
Because a lot of people don't realize that as an addict, the drugs and the drinking, that's all symptomatic.
TM, uh, piece of shit-ism, where literally, you know, my entire life I never felt good enough.
When we finished up [clears throat] the last tour, the DNA tour, we finished it in May of 2023, um, my wife and I were already separated, so we were living separately, so I kinda had a little bit more freedom to kinda go where I want and do what I need for myself, and I decided to take a little trip to Scottsdale, Arizona.
And, uh, I did a IOP, and for those that don't know what that is at home, it's an intensive outpatient program for mental health.
Uh, you know, I was already going into two years sober at the time, um, so my sobriety was good, but I wanted to dig a little deeper and figure out what was at the root of my addiction.
Because a lot of people don't realize that as an addict, the drugs and the drinking, that's all symptomatic.
TM, uh, piece of shit-ism, where literally, you know, my entire life I never felt good enough.
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