Oct 5, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 12 segments
In this episode of Turning World, Jon Egan and Keith Hitchman are joined by Professor Peter North of the University of Liverpool to explore whether the economic systems we have inherited are capable…
So, I mean, I don't know whether you would agree with me, but it feels to me, you know, there was a surge, wasn't there, about, you know, maybe pre-COVID? with the climate movement.
Well, climate movement's a good name because it wasn't one particular organisation.
a surge, wasn't there, a lot of young people, Greta Thunberg and all that kind of thing.
It's just not on the top of the agenda anymore in the way it was five or six years ago.
And it would seem that a lot of that is to do with countervailing forces and misinformation.
Would you agree with that? And if it is to do with that, how do we counter that misinformation? How do we bring that forward? I
mean, if I look back at my life, there are certain times where certain parts of what you might call social justice are more prevalent than others.
You know, I first got involved in politics with the peace movement and we genuinely believed that nuclear war was going to kill us all.
You remember programs like Threads? You know, that scared the bejesus out of everybody.
And I think that climate did become an issue when Al Gore made that wonderful film, which I think was very good climate communication.
And I think, I mean, I remember when, you know, my Polly Keith, when my Polly was born in 2006, I remember thinking, oh my goodness, and talking to physical geographers who know the science and I don't.
So are you saying that the climate can change over, you know, a few decades? And I said, no, Pete, over a few months.
So, I mean, I don't know whether you would agree with me, but it feels to me, you know, there was a surge, wasn't there, about, you know, maybe pre-COVID? with the climate movement.
Well, climate movement's a good name because it wasn't one particular organisation.
a surge, wasn't there, a lot of young people, Greta Thunberg and all that kind of thing.
It's just not on the top of the agenda anymore in the way it was five or six years ago.
And it would seem that a lot of that is to do with countervailing forces and misinformation.
Would you agree with that? And if it is to do with that, how do we counter that misinformation? How do we bring that forward? I
mean, if I look back at my life, there are certain times where certain parts of what you might call social justice are more prevalent than others.
You know, I first got involved in politics with the peace movement and we genuinely believed that nuclear war was going to kill us all.
You remember programs like Threads? You know, that scared the bejesus out of everybody.
And I think that climate did become an issue when Al Gore made that wonderful film, which I think was very good climate communication.
And I think, I mean, I remember when, you know, my Polly Keith, when my Polly was born in 2006, I remember thinking, oh my goodness, and talking to physical geographers who know the science and I don't.
So are you saying that the climate can change over, you know, a few decades? And I said, no, Pete, over a few months.
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